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My Old Theory.; Could Aeris be resurrected?
Topic Started: Jan 23 2006, 04:01 PM (395 Views)
MistaCloudStrife
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Alright. I started reading a few of those Ultimania Omega stories and skimmed through a bunch of pages about FFVII on Wikipedia(Can't believe how much info it has, even I(Who thought I knew everything about Cloud) learned something new.

Anyway... I'm guessing we can tell others theories and such... >.O

Sooo... I started reading "The Maiden who Travels the Planet" and after a little bit of reading through the first chapter I saw this.

She remained herself in the place where the consciousness of the dead flowed and swirled about, keeping the character she had when she was alive.

This reminded me of my old theory about bringing Aeris back to life... Yeah, yeah... I've heard the whole, "If Aeris would come back to life it would ruin FFVII, blah blah blah." You can have your opinion, but when Rufus and Tseng somehow survive and Seph comes back to life TWICE, I would think it's a possibility for Aeris coming back too. ^_~

Anyway... Lets go back to my old theory.

My FFVII knowledge is a bit fuzzy so please bear with me as I try to piece 7 year old memories together. Kay, lets think about Sephiroth. He died and came back to life, how? By having his body recreated in the same place that the WEAPONs were being created. And how did he regain consiousness? I believe that was because of the Black Materia, am I right?

Soooo... Lets compare these...

Sephiroth - Aeris
Black Materia - Holy



And the main question....

Wouldn't it be a possiblity to bring Aeris back to life if her body were to be recreated and Cloud and co. would use Holy?
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Lynn
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My FFVII memory is likely more than a little fuzzy, but I think what was mainly responsible for reconstructing Sephiroth's body (although his body in the Northern Crater looked pretty solid to me, but I assume you're also referring to how he gains the Bizarro and Safer Sephiroth forms later) were the Jenova cells in him. Wasn't it said in the game that Jenova had remarkable recovery abilities?

Also, I think the Black Materia was simply used to summon Meteor, no more. Sephiroth was always conscious, overriding even Jenova's influence. He was the one directing the clones and all that, after all.

*AC SPOILERS!* I think Sephiroth returns later in AC because of his strong will and the Jenova cells in him. While Aerith has a strong will and an intact consciousness, thanks to her Cetra blood, her body lacks the physical ability to repair itself like Jenova's can. */END AC SPOILERS*
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Anastar
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Jan 23 2006, 04:31 PM
*AC SPOILERS!* I think Sephiroth returns later in AC because of his strong will and the Jenova cells in him. While Aerith has a strong will and an intact consciousness, thanks to her Cetra blood, her body lacks the physical ability to repair itself like Jenova's can. */END AC SPOILERS*

*AC SPOILERS*Sephiroth came back to life in AC because Kadaj, Yazoo, and Loz were all Sephiroth remnants. Parts of Sephiroth's consciousness/personality/will/whatever had survived within the Lifestream after Sephiroth's death and taken form as Kadaj, Yazoo, and Loz. When Kadaj rubbed the Jenova cells on himself in AC, "all" of Sephiroth was recreated from the remnant.

Or something like that... :lmao:
*END AC SPOILERS*

From what I understand, Sephiroth was never dead in FFVII before Cloud Omnislashed him at the end. He survived being stabbed and thrown into the Lifestream by Cloud at Nibelheim, and eventually washed up on shore at the Northern Crater. He then transformed into Bizarro Sephiroth using the powers of Jenova's head - which he still carried with him - and the materia tree. You can see Sephiroth starting to transform into Bizarro Sephiroth at the Reunion, in fact, since he has no legs. :wink:

As Lynn said, the Black Materia had nothing to do with Sephiroth's transformation. All it did was summon Meteor.
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Meteor and Holy Materias are quite independent entities.

In Sephiroth's case, Meteor needed a lot of spiritual energy for it to work, thus he was nicely set up in the Northern Crater.

In Aerith's case, MoTP implied that she should be willing to die and in complete concentration to activate Holy.

After AC, I don't think they both have the ability to be in the physical world anymore. But I think their influences to the Planet are strong. I do not believe that Sephiroth and Jenova disappeared for good after all that.
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MistaCloudStrife
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I'm going to have to dissagree with a couple things.

Sephiroth washing up on the shore of Northern Crater seems a little too iffy for me. I'm sticking with my "He died and his body was being recreated atop of Northern Crater" theory... I see it making more sense(to me) since it would explain his only being half way finished. Otherwise it would mean somewhere while traveling through the lifestream or ocean or whatever his body brushed across or was attacked by something that severed his lower body and he somehow managed to survive all the blood-loss. >.O;;

And it was also stated that WEAPONs took a long time to create. However many hundreds or thousands of years. Creating a human would take less time of course, since its a human and not a huge mecha-like defender of the planet. And it had taken 5 years to create that much of Sephiroth. It does make some sort of sense when you think about it.

Also... The reason I believe that the Black Materia had a part in "reviving" Sephiroth was because he never really used his real body throughout the entire game. He was always on the crater projecting his own image, correct? The only time the "real" Sephiroth appeared was after Meteor was summoned; after all that black goup was surrounding his body.


Well... With my theory, it may even be possible to revive Aeris even without Holy, since all she would actually need is a body and a medium to transfer her consiousness into that body. Which "could" happen imo.

-Body created in the crystalized mako.
-Medium would be the lifestream itself connecting into the crystalized mako.

Anyway, just think about it with an open mind. ^_~ It's still a theory, and I just need info and opinions to refine it. Thanks. =)
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I think it's more on the Jenova regeneration in him. Remember, Sephiroth is a special case. He was conceived with those things in the womb. It's a lot different than having injected by them like Cloud and the other guys.

Even though Sephiroth can't move physically, his puppets certainly can voice his own thoughts and convictions. So it's a strong indication that he certainly wasn't out of commission throughout the story.
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MistaCloudStrife
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Sorry, I don't really understand what you're getting at... What do you believe, his lower-body was torn off or he died and was recreated?

You said "regeneration"... I'm guessing you're going with the "his lower-body was torn off or something similar" theory?

Also, if he would have died, I don't think Jenova could regenerate/create a dead body. She could revive him in AC because of the remnants, but I don't think she could create a body from scratch.

And I also don't think that it's just a coincidence that half a sephiroth was atop a huge mountain/crater in the same area that weapons were being created.

And I never said that he was out of commission. I said he never really used his real body until after Cloud gave the Black Materia to him.

............ *ten minutes later*

Sorry, I'm on like 3 different forums and I forgot what I was going to say after my last sentence. >.O I'll continue later, maybe after someone else replies.
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I wish it mwould be possible to bring Aeris back to life, but Aeris' death is what meakes the game so tragic. She would have to stay dead to keep the story going. Bringing her back to life won't be very surprising to people, because it'll be like the other stories.....

If there was a way to bring her back to life, I don't think Holy would work. Maybe a very powerful and mastered Life Materia would help do the trick. Or a Phoenix Down XOS...:lmao:

But anyway, I really miss Aeris :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
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Sorry, I don't really understand what you're getting at... What do you believe, his lower-body was torn off or he died and was recreated?

You said "regeneration"... I'm guessing you're going with the "his lower-body was torn off or something similar" theory?


I meant that Sephiroth is pretty much concious throughout the story. When one of the clones were talking about the search for Meteor to damage the Planet, I believed that it was Sephiroth's real intention. When Aerith was killed, I believed that Sephiroth killed her and not just a random puppet.

I don't believe that Sephiroth was dormant until Cloud gave the Black Materia, is all.

As for the regeneration, it was more of an assumption in my part. Characters in the game makes mention that Jenova herself is quite hard to destroy, I can imagine her cells does the same, as evidenced by Lucrecia and Sephiroth himself.
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