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| Clerith-son | Feb 3 2006, 05:23 AM Post #31 |
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In the middle of dawn. Staring at the twilights.
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I think that both girls had equal importance in the movie, so as the rest of Cloud's friends, plus Marlene and Denzel. Every character had a significant role in his "movie development", independently from their screentime. |
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| C+A | Feb 3 2006, 10:18 PM Post #32 |
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Tifa looked like a slut in AC with her outfit even my friend who doesn't know anything about the movie or the game said so. |
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| Lynn | Feb 3 2006, 10:26 PM Post #33 |
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Lynn has no Lloud smut ;-;
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Let's keep the crass character bashing to a limit, shall we? Calling Tifa a slut doesn't really do anything but upset her fans in this forum. There are other ways to express your distaste for her attire than calling her a slut. Such a word is more applicable to the character's behaviour, anyway, and Tifa certainly behaved nothing like a slut, IMO. Thank you. ~ Lynn
I agree that every character is important. Especially in a completely CG-ed movie, where every pixel spent on a character costs money. :) It's just that when rabid Tifa fans try to rub it in my face that Tifa is THE most important, and that Aerith was lucky to even get her name in the credits, using their respective screentime as proof... that's when I ask them to explain what, exactly, did Tifa do with all that screentime that was so much better than Aerith did with hers?
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| parikala | Feb 3 2006, 10:47 PM Post #34 |
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lazy layabout
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Aeris' name, people seem to forget, was side-by-side (in the middle of?) Sepiroth, Cloud's nemesis, and Zack, Cloud's best bud--two people who have had a GREAT impact on Cloud's life. What would that imply, I wonder, about her character then? I also agree that everybody is important. "There is nothing that is not important!" Isn't that what Cloud said? "I pity you who do not understand." He said THAT too. :lol: |
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| dancing queen | Feb 4 2006, 12:36 AM Post #35 |
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queen of the dance floor!
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you know the part about loz fighting tifa in the church and how he threw her to the ground my sister thought tifa's breasts were bleeding i thought is was the light shinning on the leather |
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| C+A | Feb 4 2006, 01:54 AM Post #36 |
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i thought he grabed her the boobs..-__-" it just looked so wrong |
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| Clerith-son | Feb 4 2006, 03:28 AM Post #37 |
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In the middle of dawn. Staring at the twilights.
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Haha... Great choice and mixture of words and quotes from yours. |
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| goddess_in_pink07 | Feb 6 2006, 09:35 PM Post #38 |
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You people are right! Aeris's screen time was much more meaningful! I just got a little worked up! I have to live with a Cloti fan! I hear " aww Cloud came for Tifa, he loves her!" kinda gets annoying after awile! I just love CLoud and Aeris! love them like myself! (i'm so selfish lol):cleris:
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| Sadhana | Feb 25 2006, 05:47 PM Post #39 |
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I have to agree that although Aeris wasn't in the movie as much as Tifa was, whenever she showed up, it meant something very significant to the movie. Tifa was always kind of like the friend who was there for encouragment but couldn't quite deliver inspiration to Cloud. Whenever he saw Aeris, she was inspiring him and telling him exactly what he needed to hear. What bothered me about the role of Aeris in AC, one of my biggest and only complaints about this movie because I loved it, is that they really brought down the value of Aeris's death. In the game, Cloud was completely devestated. His entire world seemed to shatter. From then on, the game changes completely, and Cloud talks about Aeris ALL THE TIME afterwards. It really seemed, to me at least, that he loved her and missed her. Her death was not only the most memorable moment of FFVII, it was also the most important. Cloud goes on the journey to get revenge on Sephiroth. Once Aeris dies, he continues for her sake and for that of the planet's (I think that's what he says in the scene right after she dies ;) ). In the movie, I felt like her death only served the significance of causing Cloud's guilt for not being able to save her. Maybe it was just the way I interpreted Cloud's reaction, but it seemed to mean a hell of a lot more to him in the game. CloudxAerith foreverrr
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| Lynn | Feb 25 2006, 06:03 PM Post #40 |
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Lynn has no Lloud smut ;-;
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That's an interesting point. We should probably take into account that AC takes place two years after the game. Whereas the time span between the start and end of the game has been placed as around several months-- meaning that Cloud had a comparatively shorter time to handle Aerith's death during the game. I'm imagining several months of intense hatred, sadness and anger at her death, coupled with WEAPONs and Sephiroth and Shinra breathing down his neck-- and little wonder Cloud seems more intensely focused on Aerith as well. Within the two-year time span after FFVII, I imagine the terrible hurt Cloud experienced after Aerith's death would have dulled into constant, throbbing pain-- one that is by no means less hurtful, but just more subdued and turned inward. A bit random: at the same time, if you look at Sephiroth, all he seemed to serve in AC at the most basic level, was as a monotonous villain droning on and on while delivering a flashy battle. |
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| Sadhana | Feb 26 2006, 12:54 AM Post #41 |
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Very true, Lynn. I never thought about it that way. Two years is a long time for the wounds inflicted by the death of a loved one to heal, and, really, the wounds in Cloud weren't fully healed. They left a scar in Cloud's heart. He did feel guilty, afterall. I guess I just wished her presence was felt deeper in the movie than it was, Aeris being my favorite character after Cloud. She had a huge part to play with very little screen time. I'm just glad Sephiroth showed up at all. I just thought that his memories would be there to push Cloud further. Although I thought about it, I didn't fully expect his return. The battle with Sephiroth was my favorite in the movie .
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| cloud_n_aerith_strife | Feb 26 2006, 01:21 AM Post #42 |
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aeirth is clouds one and only
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I agree with u there, I thought about that myself. It did seem a lot like Aerith was just to make Cloud guilty for not being able to save her and that is not what her death was about. People who dislike Aerith said that she should just stay dead and leave Cloud alone because she's causing him too much pain. |
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| yin-chan | Feb 26 2006, 02:08 PM Post #43 |
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*dreamchaser*
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Those people also probably mislook the fact that it was Aerith that helped Cloud ease his burden all the way in AC, till he was able to smile at the end. :lol: |
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| Whisper | Feb 26 2006, 03:07 PM Post #44 |
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Actually, her not “staying dead” and communicating with him is the only way to ease his pain... he seeks forgiveness from her, so leaving him alone would hardly help him at the moment.
Yeah, the battle is quite some eye candy, but personally, I thought that bringing him back (and just for some flashy action) was a bit over the top. If they really HAD to show him in action, I’d rather see an extended flashback of the final battle of the game...
That’s true, I had similar feeling. I believe it was caused by a) ‘forgiveness’ being among the main themes of the movie b) Square’s unwillingness to solve the LT. Any more emphasis on Cloud’s feelings for her and all the answers would be pretty much given. Then again, as Lynn pointed out, things are very different in AC than they were in the game. In the game, there’s constant danger, (almost) hopeless general situation, thirst for revenge... all emotions are in the extremes. In AC, things settled down a little, the battle is won, revenge is done, and all that’s left is lingering depression (especially if there’s guilt involved). This makes sense to me. |
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| HolyAngel | Mar 10 2006, 08:57 PM Post #45 |
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i've seen it i liked it, but i rather have aeris alive in this movie ;_; but other then that it was good.
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i liked it, but i rather have aeris alive in this movie ;_; but other then that it was good.

12:37 AM Jul 11