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Tifa In Kh2!; Confirmed
Topic Started: Dec 20 2005, 10:32 PM (19,349 Views)
Ally McBeal
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YOU MUST BEAT SEPHIROT(with sora)..FOR SEE TIFA FIGTHING..
also i read..that after the battle..cloud and tifa..are talking while aerith is alone in a treeh o_<..PEOPLE ALSO SAYS THAT HE DISSAPEARS WITH SPEHIROT..I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO THINK O_<
is like aerith and tifa roles..changed.. :unsure:
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Lynn
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@Real Emotion: Regarding the Nomura hate that's been going around as well, I don't find that surprising since he is in charge of the game and is its most visible spokesperson. Even if certain elements of the game were decided upon by a group of people, the average person who is unsatisfied would direct their reaction towards the person in charge.

When something goes awry in a project, the one who takes the fall is usually the top guy. Hence Sakaguchi leaving after the fiasco that was The Spirits Within, even though I'm sure that the entire movie wasn't created solely by him.

I also think it's more likely that many of KH2's elements were decided upon by a group, and not just Nomura alone. And even though it's understandable to be directing your emotions towards Nomura, it's still always good to keep that in mind. :)
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Lesca
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Ally McBeal
Dec 27 2005, 12:03 PM
YOU MUST BEAT SEPHIROT(with sora)..FOR SEE TIFA FIGTHING..
also i read..that after the battle..cloud and tifa..are talking while aerith is alone in a treeh o_<..PEOPLE ALSO SAYS THAT HE DISSAPEARS WITH SPEHIROT..I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO THINK O_<
is like aerith and tifa roles..changed.. :unsure:

*Sigh* there's just so many different versions and translations going around, if only they could of put in some offical subtitles in english. I've heard he's sitting on his own after the battle... :/ Must somehow get this game >_<
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You lot really do update quickly! 707 posts and 10,000+ page views. Ahhh, how Tifa causes us all so much angst.

I think the reason everyone is so worried/disappointed/upset by this Tifa-revelation is because it's all been hyped up too much. I mean, if Tifa was there we'd be perfectly happy with what we have already and run around waving our "wooo Cleris" flags. Putting Miss Lockhart in doesn't change that at all. *blinks*

In fact, if it was any girl other than Tifa talking to and 'helping' Cloud (i.e. Yuffie, Marlene, Lucretcia, Kairi, Elmyra, wudeva) I doubt we'd be bothered and we certainly wouldn't think of the romantic implications.

Worry not, as it's been said a gazillion times, the LT will not be resolved in an AU cameo. *hugs FFVII canon* Ahh, how I love thee. ;P



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Lynn
Dec 27 2005, 04:24 AM
@Real Emotion: Regarding the Nomura hate that's been going around as well, I don't find that surprising since he is in charge of the game and is its most visible spokesperson. Even if certain elements of the game were decided upon by a group of people, the average person who is unsatisfied would direct their reaction towards the person in charge.

When something goes awry in a project, the one who takes the fall is usually the top guy. Hence Sakaguchi leaving after the fiasco that was The Spirits Within, even though I'm sure that the entire movie wasn't created solely by him.

I also think it's more likely that many of KH2's elements were decided upon by a group, and not just Nomura alone. And even though it's understandable to be directing your emotions towards Nomura, it's still always good to keep that in mind. :)

lol were you talking 2 me? Lynn? :P
R_E seems 2 support Nomura lol and I'm the one who flamed him just now lol so I guess you were talking 2 me XD :P

Well yeah... I was just having an episode, lol slapping myself 4 watching 2 many spoilers and blaming Nomura lol what I really wanted 2 say is that Sakaguchi wouldn't let this kinda crap happen IMO the FF whoring

Although Spirits within was indeed a failure it was original that's that I tried 2 point out.... there's not much originality nowadays and the fact that they're doing this just 4 money kinda pisses me off :grr:

in anyway screw helping them make money!! I'll just borrow it from my friend who is an ubeer KH fan :lol:
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Anastar
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*Possible spoilers in this post*

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Dec 27 2005, 06:37 AM
Well, the flashes are larger because of the camera's persepective. We're so much closer to the flashes. Also, that's multiple flashes at once, as Sephiroth killed a whole row, not just one at a time as Cloud & Leon were.

I'll try to get screens, coz the flashes seem different to me. I wasn't talking about the ones surrounding Sephiroth as he appeared, but that large flash before Sephiroth's sparklies appear. (EDIT: This is the flash I meant. Cloud and Leon are seen fighting the Heartless up close right before this, and the flashes are smaller as the Heartless are killed:)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v140/ffp...notherflash.jpg

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While I don't think that a bad guy cannot wield light, I don't think they can do it in such a way as the flash that blinded Cloud after Tifa's called his name. My first guess was that the flash was actually Tifa appearing (through transportation, whatever).

But why would Tifa's flash blind Cloud? That doesn't make any sense. Tifa wouldn't want to blind Cloud when he's facing off Sephiroth. And why would calling his name cause such a flash? As he runs away, she calls his name again and there is no flash, so it's not just a result of calling his name. Why would transportation cause a flash like that? Any transportation system built for a spaceship would take into consideration that the people transporting down may be transporting into a battle to help allies. Why would a transportation system be built so that it may potentially harm allies?

In other words, I see no reason for Tifa to be "flashing". No transporter would be made in a way that allies could be potentially harmed. Tifa wouldn't want to harm Cloud, especially as he's facing Sephiroth. Calling his name doesn't cause a flash later, so how could calling his name cause a flash earlier?

Since the flash blinds Cloud, it is most likely an offensive "flash". Tifa doesn't use offensive flashes as she battles the Heartless later. So who is the most likely to use an offensive flash that would harm Cloud? Tifa or Sephiroth? Logically, it makes much more sense that the flash comes from Sephiroth, especially since Sephiroth tells Cloud right before it happens that Cloud is "shining".

Furthermore, since Demyx uses the same sort of flash as he makes his weapon appear, we know that "bad guys" are able to use light in such a way.

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Demyx's weapon appearing in a flash of light isn't him actively using light offensively/defensively, it's an after-effect of how he summons his weapon.

Doesn't matter. It still shows that his "powers" can utilize light.

*gives MT another cookie* :lol: :huggle:

Lesca
 
*Sigh* there's just so many different versions and translations going around, if only they could of put in some offical subtitles in english. I've heard he's sitting on his own after the battle...  Must somehow get this game.

Good observation, Lesca. Let's not get worried over rumors, especially when there's so many different versions and translations floating around. :wink:
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Lynn
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Dec 27 2005, 01:33 PM
lol were you talking 2 me? Lynn? :P
R_E seems 2 support Nomura lol and I'm the one who flamed him just now lol so I guess you were talking 2 me XD :P

:lol: Naw, I ws replying to RE's older post, trying to explain why Nomura seems to be getting all the hate ("frustration" seems to be a better word) in this thread, even though a whole team of people actually made KH2.

I guess it would've been a good idea to quote that post, though. But I'd forgotten what page it'd got buried in by all the other posts. :P

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Although Spirits within was indeed a failure it was original that's that I tried 2 point out.... there's not much originality nowadays and the fact that they're doing this just 4 money kinda pisses me off

This is why I'm worried about the short, cryptic talk about another sequel to FFVII by Nomura. Hey, I love this game as much as the next person, but it would be nice to get some new worlds, new characters and new ideas now... instead of rehashing the same old for an eight-year old game.

But that's a post for another thread.

Anastar
 
Logically, it makes much more sense that the flash comes from Sephiroth, especially since Sephiroth tells Cloud right before it happens that Cloud is "shining".

Although it fits logically, I'm with MT in that I just can't see Sephiroth using "light" as a weapon-- this is, of course, assuming you equate "light" with "good". Just plain ol' light, however, can work for anything.

Am I the only one who thinks the light that blinds Cloud comes from neither Tifa nor Sephiroth, but is instead a "mystery" that is to be explained in KH3? :lol:

Of course, I haven't actually watched the video yet so... :hide:
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Aly's right that Tifa's not his light. I definitely don't think she is either. Rather as Aly says "friends" with light can help out each other in the KH universe too :) Also going by what I and other people were saying about light and darkness in the KH series earlier, that everyone has light somewhere inside of them, inner light, does any of us doubt that Aerith also has that light? :P I sure don't. She's always had it, always been a creature of the light, from Aerith the light shines brightly :)

I do have one nitpick though, from media before the game came out, wasn't Kairi ( one of the "Lights") fighting alongside Selphie? She fights in this game? And Aerial and Eric are each other's light, but Aerial fights :blink:
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Lynn
Dec 27 2005, 02:40 PM
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Logically, it makes much more sense that the flash comes from Sephiroth, especially since Sephiroth tells Cloud right before it happens that Cloud is "shining".

Although it fits logically, I'm with MT in that I just can't see Sephiroth using "light" as a weapon-- this is, of course, assuming you equate "light" with "good". Just plain ol' light, however, can work for anything.

Am I the only one who thinks the light that blinds Cloud comes from neither Tifa nor Sephiroth, but is instead a "mystery" that is to be explained in KH3? :lol:

Of course, I haven't actually watched the video yet so... :hide:

That's the thing... I'm thinking of "light" as a physical force that can be used offensively by either side rather than assuming only good people can use it because it's "holy".

"Light" as a Holy power would be usable by "good people" only, but what about "light" as a physical force? Ultima was used by Ruby Weapon, for example. That's using light as a physical force rather than as a Holy power. See the difference? I'm not necessarily equating Light with Holy powers.

And yes... I also think it's possible that the "flash" that blinds Cloud comes from a third source that we don't know about yet.
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Ally McBeal
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BUT WHAT WAS THAT YELLOW LIGTH :hide:???
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I just read Anti R's account of the Cloud and Aerith scene ... and I think everyone that was worried about Tifa ... we can all stop worrying now! *^_^*


Whoo ... I feel much better now, I might actually give Nomura my money now :lmao:

The Cleris lives! :hyper:
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Ally McBeal
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:hide: don't sing victory still :hide:
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Lynn
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:lmao: I think after all the gray hairs everyone's been getting over this thread, we can celebrate... just a little. :lol:

I dunno, I thought that scene was beyond adorable. :cleris:

Everyone should go read Anti's thread, she's summarised a very adorable CxA moment!

*puts on pessimism cap again :P*
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YOUR RIGTH..LET'S GO TO BE HAPPY
Aerith leaned forward, saying "Hmm." She then asked if he's leaving soon. Cloud answers that wherever he goes, he'll always return here.

Aerith asked "Really?" and Cloud says "Yeah." while staring sideways. Aerith replied that he looked so serious, but she understood.

When Cloud said "Huh?" Aerith replied "That as long as you know the light in your heart, you can always come back here."

Cloud said "You're right."

Aerith said, "And that's why I should stay here, right, Cloud?" Cloud says yes and then leaves. Aerith wonders aloud if he'll be alright. Sora replied that he believed in the light in Cloud.

Aerith agreed, saying "That's true."

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*dyes hair back to brown* white hair what white hair? :P am still going to keep my guard up but that scene is ADORABLE :cleris: I just hope they dont screw up the translations when the dubbs begin <_<
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