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Tifa In Kh2!; Confirmed
Topic Started: Dec 20 2005, 10:32 PM (19,354 Views)
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Velvy
Dec 27 2005, 12:36 AM
According to the Livejournal Cloud x Tifa community, the light comes from within Cloud. Tifa says she'll give Cloud her light, but she doesn't, because Cloud discovers a light within himself or something...

So Tifa is not Cloud's light.

Then whatever Cloud's light must be something he discovered within himself. Maybe this was the purpose of Tifa; she helped him FIND his light but she herself is NOT his light. I guess that would make sense? :unsure:
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Dec 27 2005, 12:36 AM
According to the Livejournal Cloud x Tifa community, the light comes from within Cloud. Tifa says she'll give Cloud her light, but she doesn't, because Cloud discovers a light within himself or something...

So Tifa is not Cloud's light.

First two lights have something to do with Tifa I still think...the last one Cloud gets I think he summons from his heart perhaps, so hard to tell :/

Tis also possible if he got the last light from his heart he got it from Aerith-Hearts connected and everything, Home is where the heart is or...something *brain explodes*
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Dec 26 2005, 04:40 PM
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Dec 27 2005, 12:36 AM
According to the Livejournal Cloud x Tifa community, the light comes from within Cloud. Tifa says she'll give Cloud her light, but she doesn't, because Cloud discovers a light within himself or something...

So Tifa is not Cloud's light.

Then whatever Cloud's light must be something he discovered within himself. Maybe this was the purpose of Tifa; she helped him FIND his light but she herself is NOT his light. I guess that would make sense? :unsure:

But don't other people act as lights to the characters of Kingdom Hearts?

I.E. Sora and Kairi, Beast and Beauty, etc.

EDIT: I think the confusing thing is that we're talking about "light", but in two seperate capacities.

light ---> What Cloud was searching for in KH.

VS.

light ---> the bright flashes that seem to pain Cloud
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Velvy
Dec 27 2005, 12:36 AM
According to the Livejournal Cloud x Tifa community, the light comes from within Cloud. Tifa says she'll give Cloud her light, but she doesn't, because Cloud discovers a light within himself or something...

So Tifa is not Cloud's light.

Very good. I never thought it looked like Tifa was casting it on Cloud! :cheer: Thanks for the news, Velvy! :huggle:

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Indeed, he doesn't look pleased either times she interferes with his actions. I'm not really quite sure what the light is, that's my problem. I don't think it's good (it causes Cloud pain, multiple times) and I don't think it's from Sephiroth (I can't seem him, with his characterization, using light as a weapon). However, I don't think Tifa's intending to use it in a manner that would hurt Cloud, I don't even think she's using it directly.

No, I don't think Tifa's doing it on purpose... yet, it's not helping him. As you said before, Tifa tried to do different things to help Cloud in FFVII that actually hurt him. Same here.
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Dec 27 2005, 12:42 AM
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Dec 26 2005, 04:40 PM
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Dec 27 2005, 12:36 AM
According to the Livejournal Cloud x Tifa community, the light comes from within Cloud. Tifa says she'll give Cloud her light, but she doesn't, because Cloud discovers a light within himself or something...

So Tifa is not Cloud's light.

Then whatever Cloud's light must be something he discovered within himself. Maybe this was the purpose of Tifa; she helped him FIND his light but she herself is NOT his light. I guess that would make sense? :unsure:

But don't other people act as lights to the characters of Kingdom Hearts?

I.E. Sora and Kairi, Beast and Beauty, etc.

I think the belief that a person HAS to represent someone's light is what's throwing everything out of proportion. Maybe it's the connection that one person has with someone special, that's what creates a 'light' in their heart. The connection between friends, family, lovers, etc, maybe that creates something in a person's heart and what's created is the light WITHIN their heart. Or something? :unsure:
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Dec 26 2005, 04:43 PM
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Indeed, he doesn't look pleased either times she interferes with his actions. I'm not really quite sure what the light is, that's my problem. I don't think it's good (it causes Cloud pain, multiple times) and I don't think it's from Sephiroth (I can't seem him, with his characterization, using light as a weapon). However, I don't think Tifa's intending to use it in a manner that would hurt Cloud, I don't even think she's using it directly.

No, I don't think Tifa's doing it on purpose... yet, it's not helping him. As you said before, Tifa tried to do different things to help Cloud in FFVII that actually hurt him. Same here.

I honestly doubt she'd ever do anything to hurt Cloud on purpose. I do think the flashes of light are connected to her however.
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Dec 27 2005, 12:45 AM

I.E. Sora and Kairi, Beast and Beauty, etc.

I think the belief that a person HAS to represent someone's light is what's throwing everything out of proportion. Maybe it's the connection that one person has with someone special, that's what creates a 'light' in their heart. The connection between friends, family, lovers, etc, maybe that creates something in a person's heart and what's created is the light WITHIN their heart. Or something? :unsure: [/QUOTE]
Well in KH1 Leon said there is darkness in every heart so...there must be light too, but i think people with connected hearts give each other light and strength, Kairi-Sora etc
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Dec 26 2005, 04:45 PM
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Dec 27 2005, 12:42 AM
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Dec 27 2005, 12:36 AM
According to the Livejournal Cloud x Tifa community, the light comes from within Cloud. Tifa says she'll give Cloud her light, but she doesn't, because Cloud discovers a light within himself or something...

So Tifa is not Cloud's light.

Then whatever Cloud's light must be something he discovered within himself. Maybe this was the purpose of Tifa; she helped him FIND his light but she herself is NOT his light. I guess that would make sense? :unsure:

But don't other people act as lights to the characters of Kingdom Hearts?

I.E. Sora and Kairi, Beast and Beauty, etc.

I think the belief that a person HAS to represent someone's light is what's throwing everything out of proportion. Maybe it's the connection that one person has with someone special, that's what creates a 'light' in their heart. The connection between friends, family, lovers, etc, maybe that creates something in a person's heart and what's created is the light WITHIN their heart. Or something? :unsure:

But what I'm saying is, if she helped him find his light, that means she would be his light, unless she suddenly helped him find a magical connection to someone else. o_o;

I do think that it can be the bond a person shares with others that is their "light", however.
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Sounds like Sephiroth teleported away in a flash of light. Kinda what he did when you fight him in the Coliseum in KH.
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It's not the same flash of light though, as what we're discussing. His was more--sparkles and feathers. o_O;
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Dec 27 2005, 12:49 AM

But what I'm saying is, if she helped him find his light, that means she would be his light, unless she suddenly helped him find a magical connection to someone else. o_o;

I do think that it can be the bond a person shares with others that is their "light", however.

I dont think she helps him find his light and she definatly ISNT his light, I really think she is trying to protect him so much that its restraining him...

I swear am never going to be able to look at a light bulb the same again :wacko:

and none of you said how hewt Leon looks in the vid! be ashamed! :P
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Dec 27 2005, 12:45 AM
I think the belief that a person HAS to represent someone's light is what's throwing everything out of proportion. Maybe it's the connection that one person has with someone special, that's what creates a 'light' in their heart. The connection between friends, family, lovers, etc, maybe that creates something in a person's heart and what's created is the light WITHIN their heart. Or something? :unsure:

Actually, you're right. What about Winnie the Pooh and his friends? I believe that Winnie was the light of Tigger, Eeyore, Owl, and all the others... not just one of them. Geppeto was Pinocchio's light, and vice versa, but Jiminy Cricket also healed Pinocchio with light... perhaps because they were friends? Sora was Kairi's light and vice versa, but what was Kairi to Riku? He searched for her, too, and helped close the door at the end to help Kairi and Sora.

In other words, people acting as friends are also a kind of light... aren't they? We normally think of someone's light as being their love, but sorry... I don't think that Gepetto loves Pinocchio in that way! :lmao:
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I dunno. That screwed up the romantic implications of Aerith being Cloud's light in KH.

Still I'm looking forward for that scene.
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Dec 27 2005, 01:11 AM
I dunno. That screwed up the romantic implications of Aerith being Cloud's light in KH.

Not really. Lights who are male-female are typically romantic in nature, like Sora and Kairi, Jasmine and Aladdin, Beast and Beauty, Wendy and Peter Pan, Tarzan and Jane, etc. But lights don't have to be romantic male-female relationships. As examples, we see Gepetto and Pinocchio, and Winnie the Pooh and friends.

I'm just pointing out that lights can apparently be something other than romantic. They can still be romantic, but they don't have to be romantic.
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<_< if you ask me i think it wouldnt be this complicated if tifa wasnt in the game at all
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