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Tifa In Kh2!; Confirmed
Topic Started: Dec 20 2005, 10:32 PM (19,365 Views)
Aerith_kun
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Oh, OK all then, Anastar :ok:

Well, I donīt care very much for the posible "Cloti" part in KH2... Persons who have played the game said she appears during 3 minutes more or less, so I donīt think anything really relevant can happen in this time ^^. On other part, for all what we know, Aerith is Cloudīs light... I canīt see any Cloti "proof" for that at the moment (although I donīt know very much about this game :P )... And about Clotis, they can think and say what they want. Itīs what they have been doing since FFVII, after all...

What annoys me is how they are turning the FFVII into a commercial thing, with lot of merchandising, etc. :no:
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Dec 25 2005, 10:17 PM
Oh, OK all then, Anastar :ok:

Well, I donīt care very much for the posible "Cloti" part in KH2... Persons who have played the game said she appears during 3 minutes more or less, so I donīt think anything really relevant can happen in this time ^^. On other part, for all what we know, Aerith is Cloudīs light... I canīt see any Cloti "proof" for that at the moment (although I donīt know very much about this game :P )... And about Clotis, they can think and say what they want. Itīs what they have been doing since FFVII, after all...

What annoys me is how they are turning the FFVII into a commercial thing, lot of merchandising, etc. :no:

I hear ye on the merchandising part, Aerith_kun, and I agree with you. If they're going to give us more, then I wish they'd stop rehashing the same old stuff. *mutter*

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I'm not worried that Tifa might be Cloud's light, I'm worried that people would think that. And I'm annoyed at what he's doing in the game. This is getting ridiculous, like he felt he needed to include Tifa in Cloud's sidestory, why?? Because of AC? Its just..annoying me, why he included her for no reason and what I'm hearing the scenes are.

Tifa goes after Sephiroth because she wants to help Cloud fight him. That's what she did in FFVII. If she's not in your party when Cloud gets to the Northern Crater, Tifa comes running in and asks Cloud if she can join the main party because there's things she wants to take revenge on Sephiroth for, too. If Cloud's going to battle Sephiroth, she wants to be in on it. That looks like what she's doing here, too.

I think people are assuming that Cloud is protecting Tifa from Sephiroth. I think it's more likely that Cloud is telling Tifa to stay out of it because it's his fight. Cloud looks in worse shape than Tifa, so I sorta doubt that he's "protecting" her.
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This. Thread. Updates. Too. Quickly. :lol:

Oh, that's a cool video. *swoons over Sephiroth&Cloud battle* Tifa looks so cool!

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I'm not worried that Tifa might be Cloud's light, I'm worried that people would think that

I'd say let them think what they wanna. If they haven't concluded that Aeris is Cloud's light after:
1) Cloud and Aeris reuniting at the end of KH1 after Cloud emphasizes on finding his light and Sora hinting he'll find his light.
2) Hints from during the credits before the scene with the Cleris reunion. ie, Beast and Bell reuniting, Jasmine and Aladine reuniting, etc.
3)Aeris telling Cloud that as long as they are connected, they will meet again.
Then, they are beyond delusioned. :angel:

As for Nomura dragging the LT along... yes it is EXTREMELY annoying now. Frankly, I'm kinda dissappointed with Nomura now and some of the choices he made in KH2. There are wayyy to many FF characters now. Some look like they are unimportant to the general plot of KH1. For example, Seifer seems to appear only as a tutorial boss guy... that dissappointed me. When I heard that Seifer would appear, I thought he would appear as his regular self and would face off against Leon. :no: Doesn't look like he will since all he appears to be is the town bully. <_< And don't get me started on YRP! I could seriously do without them in KH2 if they are only going to appear as Meleficiant's henchmen fairy things and possible summons. :rolleyes: *teh sigh* Course, I'm tired of the LT resurfacing over and over again. I really wished that he would just let t be and stop stringing us along like his puppets. Let it be, Nomura, let it be...
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I don't think Nomura brought her in to push love triangle drama.. actually, if you watch the video where she interferes with Seph and Cloud's fight, he barely regaurds her- it's like, they've been in touch all along or something. At any rate, I highly doubt she is his 'light', the glow he had looks similar to the attack he used against Seph in AC.

It's hard to tell since Tifa and Cloud haven't interracted much. Aerith and Cloud seem to have their tender moments- and if Nomura does push the Triangle into KH...


He is trying to suck the frustration out of our souls to power his empire of evil. Don't give into the frustration! In fact, our only way to strike back is to believe in Yaoi pairings. Its his weakness. YOU WILL FALL NOMURA.

IF IT ISN'T CLAERITH, ITS GONNA BE CLOPHEROTH. OR CLEON. OR CLORA.

Or Clo-wierdhoodedpeoplewithcrazyhair.

Or Cloofy. Or Clonald. We'll strike back with so many yaoi pairings that it's gonna hurt you to sit down.


...

Anyway, Tifa looks alright, and I think it makes sense for her to be there- I highly doubt its for LTD.
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Well, you have to wonder how much of this has happened because Sakaguchi left the company. :whistle2:
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Well Tifa is one of the most popular FF characters of all time, we can not deny that. Infact I was bit surprised that she was not in the first KH game. I have no idea what her role is in KH 2, am I not even exactly sure if she is in that games as I have been trying to avoid nearly all threads here as I do not wish to be spoiled. :P

But Aly made a good point, one can only wonder how different things would be if Sakaguchi would still be with Square. Things might be better or they might be worse, no one say for sure. Personally though I just have to say that it was sad to see Square and Hironobu part ways when they did, I would have loved for him to stay...but I suppose Spirits Within was the final nail for his coffin. :no:
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Hades' Daughter
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I'd say let them think what they wanna. If they haven't concluded that Aeris is Cloud's light after:
1) Cloud and Aeris reuniting at the end of KH1 after Cloud emphasizes on finding his light and Sora hinting he'll find his light.
2) Hints from during the credits before the scene with the Cleris reunion. ie, Beast and Bell reuniting, Jasmine and Aladine reuniting, etc.
3)Aeris telling Cloud that as long as they are connected, they will meet again.
Then, they are beyond delusioned.


Exactly, RE. I think it's clear as day, and you'd really have to be in denial not to accept this. *sighs*

I wish SE could just bring the LT to a closure as well. With all the repeated garbage that we're getting from Nomura and CO., I could care less at this point if SE decides to conclude it as Cloti(although I highly doubt it'd ever be such a thing).

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I don't think Nomura brought her in to push love triangle drama..


Maybe not...but it's not going to stop certain people from thinking it... :rolleyes:
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Well, you have to wonder how much of this has happened because Sakaguchi left the company. 


EXACTLY, Anastar. Itīs what I thought while I was writting my last two posts. Sakaguchi is the creator of the FF saga and he was the producer of FFVII and he was an important person behind this game. If Iīm correct, Nomura was the designer and he was after the script in some part, too; BUT he wasnīt the director, or the producer... Iīm not saying he does wrong his job, but it wasnīt his main job (I donīt know how to explain it, sorry U.U)... So I canīt avoid to wonder "what would have happened if Sakaguchi had been after all this Compilation?" -_-

And do somebody know why Sakaguchi left?? O.o (sorry for being off-topic U.U)

EDIT-->> Oh, Andina explains it better ^^
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Anyway, Tifa looks alright, and I think it makes sense for her to be there- I highly doubt its for LTD.

But it shouldn't make sense. since its an AU. I mean, for it to make sense, he is tearing down the barrier of the AU, which I very dislike. Also, I'm very disapointed in Setzer's role. As someone mentioned, I thought he'd be a gambler in the pirate's ship?
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But it shouldn't make sense. since its an AU. I mean, for it to make sense, he is tearing down the barrier of the AU, which I very dislike.


I disagree. I've always seen KH as an AU, but one with a parallel. Therefore, I think it makes perfect sense for Tifa to be in it. However, I've always seen Tifa and Avalanche as Cloud's family. Aerith is Cloud's light. If there is a romantic relationship, one's more likely than the other because of the whole "connection" thing.

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I disagree. I've always seen KH as an AU, but one with a parallel. Therefore, I think it makes perfect sense for Tifa to be in it. However, I've always seen Tifa and Avalanche as Cloud's family. Aerith is Cloud's light. IF there is a romantic relationship, one's more likely than the other because of the whole "connection" thing.


I agree with the AU and the parallel thing, but for a person who hasnīt played FFVII before (or who hasnīt seen AC), how do you explain Tifaīs appearance from nowhere?? :ermm: ... She wasnīt mentioned in all the KH and all...

In conclusion, everything which is around FFVII is becoming a franchise now :(

SPOILER_________ Rinoa, for example, is being introduced to the public by Leon wings on his back or by the wings of Leonīs letter... but Tifa??? O.o.... ________ END SPOILER
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Dec 25 2005, 11:33 PM
EXACTLY, Anastar. Itīs what I thought while I was writting my last two posts. Sakaguchi is the creator of the FF saga and he was the producer of FFVII and he was an important person behind this game. If Iīm correct, Nomura was the designer and he was after the script in some part, too; BUT he wasnīt the director, or the producer... Iīm not saying he does wrong his job, but it wasnīt his main job (I donīt know how to explain it, sorry U.U)... So I canīt avoid to wonder "what would have happened if Sakaguchi had been after all this Compilation?" -_-

And do somebody know why Sakaguchi left?? O.o (sorry for being off-topic U.U)

Sakaguchi wrote the original story of FFVII, then Nomura helped him co-author the final version of the story. Sakaguchi was also the producer of KH1.

We had an article on Sakaguchi leaving SE here: http://s8.invisionfree.com/Cloud_x_Aerith/...p?showtopic=302 He was basically asked to leave the company after the failure of "The Spirits Within". He's started his own game company called Mistwalker.

But you have to wonder how different AC, the Compilation, and KH2 would be if Sakaguchi were still in the company. If Tifa wasn't in KH1 while Sakaguchi was around, then she prolly wouldn't be in KH2 if Sakaguchi were still in the company. It makes you wonder. :wink:

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I disagree. I've always seen KH as an AU, but one with a parallel. Therefore, I think it makes perfect sense for Tifa to be in it. However, I've always seen Tifa and Avalanche as Cloud's family. Aerith is Cloud's light. If there is a romantic relationship, one's more likely than the other because of the whole "connection" thing.

I agree, HD, although Aerith_kun makes a good point about how did Tifa show up there? I would imagine that we'd learn why she showed up in KH3. Maybe she's been away training to become a fighter? :unsure: All we know is that she wasn't in Hollow Bastion, or else she wouldn't have had to come in on a gummi ship.
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I agree with the AU and the parallel thing, but for a person who hasnīt played FFVII before (or who hasnīt seen AC), how do you explain Tifaīs appearance from nowhere??  ... She wasnīt mentioned in all the KH and all...


That's the thing. I think it makes perfect sense for Tifa to be in KH. However, I still think SE should do some explaining as to where she was during KH1's time frame. This way, SE doesn't leave fans completely clueless, ya know?

Also, I understood in AC that Tifa is "family" to Cloud. Therefore, I wouldn't mind KH touching on a "caring-family-like" relationship between Cloud and Tifa while Aerith is portrayed as Cloud's light. A reinforcement of ideas from AC in KH will only help to strengthen the whole "parallel" concept. :devil:
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Thank you for the info, Anastar! :gift: ... Itīs a pity the old trio (Sakaguchi, Amano and Uematsu) of FF series have left... but oh, well :(

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That's the thing. I think it makes perfect sense for Tifa to be in KH. However, I still think SE should do some explaining as to where she was during KH1's time frame. This way, SE doesn't leave new fans completely clueless, ya know?


The problem is that they havenīt given to us any explication for Tifa being there. She appears from nowhere, knows Cloud and he knows her, kicks Sephirothīs ass (or she try) and then she leaves :whistle: ... Well, maybe in KH3... But it means we will have to wait other 2/3/4 years <_< ... Like with the named "Cloud story" in AC, wich doesnīt conclude in anything (and it doesnīt mean I donīt love "Calling" ^^), and Nomura comes now and says heīs thinking on doing ANOTHER sequel for finishing all the Compilation... Nomura, please, could you stop of playing with us? :whistle:
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If you watch the video of the cutscenes and gameplay in the TRON world, Tifa's walking around casually. It seems she's hanging around throughout the whole game, not just suddenly appearing when Cloud's in a pinch. He would have at least glanced at her if that was the case..
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