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Ultimania Relationship Chart And Scans; <3
Topic Started: Oct 17 2005, 06:35 PM (2,600 Views)
Onigiri
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Thanks for the info chibi15!

About the Cloud and Tifa thing, I always thought that he never had a crush on Tifa, but a admiration. He said in the lifestream that he was always looking at Tifa and her friends because he wanted to be popular and accepted, and that Tifa was the most popular so that if she accepted him, everyone else would to...It's also probably not there because people might take it as he likes Tifa and make it cannon. They probably want to remain as neutral as possible. :P
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Kaldea
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*Keeps celebrating*

I'm just happy that Square was awesome enough to make this chart. It really clears up a lot of things for those less informed FFVII fans. :lol:
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Digital Holocaust
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You're just happy with the fact that you've been right all along, no fair. :)
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Lynn
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Lynn has no Lloud smut ;-;
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Oct 19 2005, 01:58 PM
The idea of Cloud being Aerith's bodyguard actually came up way more often than anything about a "childhood crush" on Tifa. As I said before, there are only two sentences that can be interpreted to mean that Cloud had a crush on Tifa, and those sentences may actually be referring to his guilt over letting her fall at the bridge.

First, I'll clarify that I tend to associate the "childhood crush" with the watertower promise scene. ^_^ I've read the essays that explore it, but I simply can't help the impression that a crush is what started the chain of events (Cloud following Tifa and her friends up the bridge) that ultimately led to the promise scene.

I'm not calling it an all-consuming love that will last the ages, but I believe there was a simple crush from the social outcast on the pretty, popular girl.

That said, the memories I have from the game is that the watertower promise gets comparatively more mention than the bodyguard promise-- by that, I literally mean "talked about". It's brought up many times throughout the game (although I think it was mostly by Tifa, and she does have the advantage of being alive past Disc 1), whereas I think the bodyguard promise is brought up twice-- first at the time it was made in the church, and secondly during their imprisonment at Shinra HQ.

That's why I'm surprised that it's mentioned in the chart as well. The word itself just doesn't come up much in FFVII. It would almost feel like a forgotten subplot, but there's a catch, which you showed here:

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So Cloud continued to protect Aerith's spirit even after her death, as well as helping Aerith cast Holy. So the idea of him being her bodyguard essentially continued in Disks Two and Three.

Even though I felt the childhood crush gets more mention via the watertower promise, it stops at that. I felt that Cloud hardly stepped up to fulfilling the promise to Tifa to the extent that he did for Aerith. His presence in Nibelheim, commonly used to show that Cloud kept the promise to her, was by coincidence; his break-in into the Shinra building (among the other scenerios you've given) to rescue Aerith, someone he'd just only met, was by design.

I see the watertower scene being brought up a lot, but not a lot of initiative on Cloud's part to fulfill it-- nor a lot of initiative on the game's part to give Cloud the chance to fulfill it.

Yet although I don't see Cloud and Aerith talk about the bodyguard deal much, it's evident that his actions are always going back to that promise he made her. He remains, albeit unspokenly, her bodyguard until the end. The game does not highlight that role through mere words, but through his actions.

And even though it's brimming with cheese, I must paraphrase Tifa's infamous line here: "Words are not the only way to show someone how you feel." :whistle:

Anti-R
 
Aw, nuts. >.< Yes, it's Myrna in the game. But her letters lack the katakana "iru" in the scan. So it was literally read as Mina.

It's no problem, Anti-R! :huggle: But that means the name IS "Myrna", and not changed to "Mina", as was the case with "Shera" and "Sierra"?

chibi15
 
The guy pointing to Tifa is her teacher, it says so in the orange line (Teach Marial Art to). The Blank picture linked to Barret is his Wife Minna (The red line says Barret (Husband)--Minna(Wife). Same with Daion.

Thanks for the info, chibi15! There's also another sprite above Tifa who is linked to her-- any chance you could find out who that is? I'm guessing it's her dad, but it looks a lot like a woman to me, for some reason.

Digital Holocaust
 
You're just happy with the fact that you've been right all along, no fair.

*agrees with DH* And Round 34124 in the fandom wars goes to Single Cloud... again! :lol:
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Lynn
Oct 20 2005, 08:34 AM
chibi15
 
The guy pointing to Tifa is her teacher, it says so in the orange line (Teach Marial Art to). The Blank picture linked to Barret is his Wife Minna (The red line says Barret (Husband)--Minna(Wife). Same with Daion.

Thanks for the info, chibi15! There's also another sprite above Tifa who is linked to her-- any chance you could find out who that is? I'm guessing it's her dad, but it looks a lot like a woman to me, for some reason.



I looked at it again and yes it said under the picture 'Tifa's Dad' and the line is (Father-Daughter).

Any other request to clear things up? =D
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Lynn
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Thank you! :huggle: But but but...

*glares at Tifa's Dad's sprite* Why do you remind me of a woman?!!

I know this was partially translated earlier, but what does the line from Cloud to Aerith say? Just "bodyguard"? I don't know squat about Japanese, but that word looks so long to be just "bodyguard"! :lol:

Oh, who's that in the lonely box in the lower right? ...Dio? Mukki?! xD

Again, thank you very much!
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Anti-R
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I know this was partially translated earlier, but what does the line from Cloud to Aerith say? Just "bodyguard"? I don't know squat about Japanese, but that word looks so long to be just "bodyguard"!


Yeah, it's bodyguard something something... it's a little too small to see.

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Oh, who's that in the lonely box in the lower right? ...Dio? Mukki?! xD


Dio from Gold Saucer.
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Holy_Aeris
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Ooooo the Holyness......
chibi15
Oct 20 2005, 09:14 AM
Lynn
Oct 20 2005, 08:34 AM
chibi15
 
The guy pointing to Tifa is her teacher, it says so in the orange line (Teach Marial Art to). The Blank picture linked to Barret is his Wife Minna (The red line says Barret (Husband)--Minna(Wife). Same with Daion.

Thanks for the info, chibi15! There's also another sprite above Tifa who is linked to her-- any chance you could find out who that is? I'm guessing it's her dad, but it looks a lot like a woman to me, for some reason.



I looked at it again and yes it said under the picture 'Tifa's Dad' and the line is (Father-Daughter).

Any other request to clear things up? =D

Umm yea, im kinda seeing the person above Tifa as a woman.
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chibi15
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It does look like a women but remember this is FF7 graphics and they can't fit much in that little square. But his name is "Tifa's Dad" and the line is "Father-Daughter"
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pink_fl0wers
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I wonder why they didn't include Cloud's mom? Didn't he have one...?
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Holy_Aeris
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Ooooo the Holyness......
he did have a mum, and she is shown in flashbacks, no idea why she isn't no there.
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afterglow
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I've just seen the scan and it looks really interesting. Kinda surprising to find out that Cid and Shera don't really have "something" going on between them. Another thing that caught my attention...Zack didn't have a pink arrow pointing back to Aeris. :huh:
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Holy_Aeris
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Ooooo the Holyness......
Well in the game, was much said about Zacks feelings? I thought it was only Aeris' feelings for him we only see. We just assumed Zack felt the same way about her.
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Anti-R
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^ It's strange. Because he has an orange arrow pointing to CLOUD, which is also reciprocated...
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I think the double-sided orange arrow means a stablized friendship, as in being nothing more than a close friendship.
The orange arrow from cloud to aerith might mean that it started as a friendship, but would be able to develop more into something else, just like Cid and Shera. :whistle: I wonder what?

[EDIT] OK, I just realized this, but Cloud and Tifa were "friends" with each other and that's why it's two way. Cloud was Aerith's bodyguard.

Take away the labels, and then my theory would make sense. :ermm:
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