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Is There A God?
Topic Started: Sep 25 2005, 01:09 AM (5,965 Views)
EnglishRose
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I disagree because I dont believe in miracles  . Miracles happen by luck. Luck is just a coincidence  . And I dont believe in neither of them . Whatever happens, happens .


Jesus performed many miracles in the Bible, as did His disciples. Don't you believe in the Bible?

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Of course. Explain that then. How did he come here.


He didn't come here. He was here anyway. God has been here since the beginning of Time, even before there was a "here". It is hard to comprehend, because our human minds have been affected so by our sin, we are not perfect. That's why it's hard to understand. That's why Christianity is not a religio, but a Faith. That's where so many people are mistaken. Christianity is not about traditions, or man-made rules. It is about loving God, and knowing and accepting that Jesus died on the Cross to save us from our sins. To actually humble yourself before your Creator.


Also, I don't really mind myself, losing any friends over this, IMHO. God is worth it.


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But if you don't believe your going striaght to hell, so there is no choice. So I'll keep not excepting him and join up with Lucifer.


If it's not too bold to say, but... what are you talking about? You're throwing your own soul away, when you could be saved from the evils of the world!! You can go ahead, and ruin your life, but don't say that you weren't warned.

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Some things cannot be explained, and using God as your answer isn't right.


Yes it is. I know that sounds really arguementative, but I can support my answer.

You just said that God is just an excuse for unexplainable things, yes? Can Darwin explain it? Can Confucius explain it? Can Socrates? Plato? Can Muhammed? (These are just examples, they are not used for offence.)

I have a question for Evolution: Where did the Big Bang come from? Something cannot come from nothing, unless Someone or Something created it. Also, all the explosions I've ever heard of, have caused destruction. Just a personal opinion. :whistle:

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No, i believe in science and logical things. but I respect other people's opinions. I think people created God for our debility, and for to face up to our fears


I'm glad you respect Christianity, Aeris gast. But I'm sorry to say that I don't respect the so-called logical things that Humanists and Atheists believe.
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Mrs.Loz
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aww, such a shame we cant get along.

Xemnas was joking, you obviously couldnt see through that could you?

Jesus performed many miracles in the Bible, as did His disciples. Don't you believe in the Bible?

^ I am an atheist- why would I want to believe?

http://cmb.physics.wisc.edu/tutorial/bigbang.html

^ Here is something about the BIG BANG. Saved you stopping from researching it.

Something cannot come from nothing, unless Someone or Something created it. Also, all the explosions I've ever heard of, have caused destruction. Just a personal opinion.

Lol, remember..so I was created by God, and God is my father? No. My father left me when I was 3.

To your last comment..I try so much to see why people believe in Christianity, but it is not working for me. I don't respect a lot of things Christians come up with either. So, you have a bitch on your hands ER. A real daughter of Satan.
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How am I ruining my life, so because I don't live the same life you do I have thrown away my soul.

wow that is so ignorant, and here I thought I had free will, so there is only one path in life and that is to follow god anything else and your going to hell. I guess there is no free will.

I don't need to be saved, I'm happy with this choice in life, I'm enjoying a great life.

and about the big bang, couldn't it have always existed?
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Nothing in this word is free except God and His love.

and also...I dont understand why someone would want to be outcasted....
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what do you mean by being outcasted?
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what is mean is...being with Satan.
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well my entire family is in hell, since they don't believe in god, or were a part of any religion, so I'll be with my family when I die. If there is a heaven or hell.

I rather not go to a place that is full of close minded people and homophobes. And alot of christians judge gays, even though a certain thing is against it

Do not judge, so that you may not be judged (Matthew 7:1)


I found this really interesting

If your hand causes you to sin, cut it off; if your foot causes you to sin, cut it off; and if your eye causes you to sin, pull it out. It is better to go through life maimed, crippled, and one-eyed than to be whole and thrown into hell. (Mark 9:43)

Mrs.Loz have you seen this site it's really cool. http://www.postfun.com/pfp/tracts/rtb/born.html

Hey I was wondering if Jesus ever said anything about Original Sin? And do you believe we are born sinners?
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EnglishRose
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Lol, remember..so I was created by God, and God is my father? No. My father left me when I was 3.


He my not be your physical father, but in Spirit definitely. And also, Father doesn't mean just your dad. It can mean your Grandfather, and so on. I'm alos sorry to hear that your dad left you so young.

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To your last comment..I try so much to see why people believe in Christianity, but it is not working for me. I don't respect a lot of things Christians come up with either. So, you have a bitch on your hands ER. A real daughter of Satan.


I wouldn't say that. Unless you want to be, then you'll be worse off, I'm afraid. Maybe not in this world.

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How am I ruining my life, so because I don't live the same life you do I have thrown away my soul.


By openly and unregretfully rejecting God.

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wow that is so ignorant, and here I thought I had free will, so there is only one path in life and that is to follow god anything else and your going to hell. I guess there is no free will.


Of course you have free will, I never said you didn't you have a simple choice to make, whether you will accept Christ, or reject Him. But your choice will effect where you will go when you die.

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I don't need to be saved, I'm happy with this choice in life, I'm enjoying a great life.


Well, that's great. I hope you'll feel the same way when you stand before God.

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and about the big bang, couldn't it have always existed?


Always? What, just decide one time to explode? Something must've been there to trigger it, if it ever did happen. And seeing as though Atheists believe in no God, then nothing must've been there. ;)

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well my entire family is in hell, since they don't believe in god, or were a part of any religion, so I'll be with my family when I die. If there is a heaven or hell.


I'm very sorry to hear that. But I have no business in that, so I won't comment.


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I rather not go to a place that is full of close minded people and homophobes. And alot of christians judge gays, even though a certain thing is against it

Do not judge, so that you may not be judged (Matthew 7:1)

I found this really interesting


First of all, please get over the fact that Christians are not homophobes. I'm friends with Leon on here, he's homosexual, and he's a lovely person to talk to. Though I may not agree with his sexuality, that doesn't stop him from being a nice person.

And you're referring to Scripture now? Well, that's very true, you shouldn't jusge. However, it says in the Bible that Homosexuality is wrong. God has given His Word to us as a way of communication. God is the one in that situation who preaches against Homosexuals.

Also, I'm not homosexual. I know it's wrong. Isn't it right to tell people where they are going wrong? However, if I was telling them not to be homosexual, and was homosexual myself, that would be hypocritical. That's when that verse would "come into play."

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Hey I was wondering if Jesus ever said anything about Original Sin? And do you believe we are born sinners?


Before Adam and Eve sinned, we were perfect. But after that Fall, we were born sinners, up 'til today. We are all imperfect, even I am. We are all sinners, however, the diffrece between you and me is that I'm a Saved Sinner. ^_^ And I thank God everyday for giving me the chance to know Him.

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Mar 4 2006, 04:53 PM
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Lol, remember..so I was created by God, and God is my father? No. My father left me when I was 3.


He my not be your physical father, but in Spirit definitely. And also, Father doesn't mean just your dad. It can mean your Grandfather, and so on. I'm alos sorry to hear that your dad left you so young.

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To your last comment..I try so much to see why people believe in Christianity, but it is not working for me. I don't respect a lot of things Christians come up with either. So, you have a bitch on your hands ER. A real daughter of Satan.


I wouldn't say that. Unless you want to be, then you'll be worse off, I'm afraid. Maybe not in this world.

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How am I ruining my life, so because I don't live the same life you do I have thrown away my soul.


By openly and unregretfully rejecting God.

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wow that is so ignorant, and here I thought I had free will, so there is only one path in life and that is to follow god anything else and your going to hell. I guess there is no free will.


Of course you have free will, I never said you didn't you have a simple choice to make, whether you will accept Christ, or reject Him. But your choice will effect where you will go when you die.

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I don't need to be saved, I'm happy with this choice in life, I'm enjoying a great life.


Well, that's great. I hope you'll feel the same way when you stand before God.

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and about the big bang, couldn't it have always existed?


Always? What, just decide one time to explode? Something must've been there to trigger it, if it ever did happen. And seeing as though Atheists believe in no God, then nothing must've been there. ;)

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well my entire family is in hell, since they don't believe in god, or were a part of any religion, so I'll be with my family when I die. If there is a heaven or hell.


I'm very sorry to hear that. But I have no business in that, so I won't comment.


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I rather not go to a place that is full of close minded people and homophobes. And alot of christians judge gays, even though a certain thing is against it

Do not judge, so that you may not be judged (Matthew 7:1)

I found this really interesting


First of all, please get over the fact that Christians are not homophobes. I'm friends with Leon on here, he's homosexual, and he's a lovely person to talk to. Though I may not agree with his sexuality, that doesn't stop him from being a nice person.

And you're referring to Scripture now? Well, that's very true, you shouldn't jusge. However, it says in the Bible that Homosexuality is wrong. God has given His Word to us as a way of communication. God is the one in that situation who preaches against Homosexuals.

Also, I'm not homosexual. I know it's wrong. Isn't it right to tell people where they are going wrong? However, if I was telling them not to be homosexual, and was homosexual myself, that would be hypocritical. That's when that verse would "come into play."

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Hey I was wondering if Jesus ever said anything about Original Sin? And do you believe we are born sinners?


Before Adam and Eve sinned, we were perfect. But after that Fall, we were born sinners, up 'til today. We are all imperfect, even I am. We are all sinners, however, the diffrece between you and me is that I'm a Saved Sinner. ^_^ And I thank God everyday for giving me the chance to know Him.

Wow! Your like really smart! You really know how to make a good speech!

You made very good points. But why waste your breathe to the people who refuse to accept christ? I know you want to help in all, thats what being a christians about helping other people accept christ. Or carrying out the works of god.

Let the people refuse. They know the conquences. When their life comes to the end, then they will all be judged.
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where does it state that we were born sinners?
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Mrs.Loz
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goddess, what on earth makes you think that your religion rules over all of us?

Ooh, we will all be judged hm?

Like that'll happen.

This arguement is pathetic. We are not going to convert, me and Xemnas, and you and ER arent going to read the link I bothered to post, so I think this topic should be locked.

XD
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Does anyone know where it states we're born sinner, cause I can't find it. :no:
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Mrs.Loz
Mar 4 2006, 10:25 PM
This arguement is pathetic. We are not going to convert, me and Xemnas, and you and ER arent going to read the link I bothered to post, so I think this topic should be locked.

This topic will be locked when posts get off-topic, or when the debate finally ends. The debate hasn't ended yet, even if it might have for you, and I see nothing off-topic about the posts so far-- so the thread will remain open.

Now, I tend to lurk in the Lifestream, and I don't debate here so maybe, just maybe I'm not used to the mechanics here-- but I have to say:

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Converting would be dumb thing to do in my life, to busy enjoying what I have.

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Ooh, we will all be judged hm?

Like that'll happen.

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You made very good points. But why waste your breathe to the people who refuse to accept christ? I know you want to help in all, thats what being a christians about helping other people accept christ. Or carrying out the works of god.

Let the people refuse. They know the conquences. When their life comes to the end, then they will all be judged.

Posts like these don't really belong in The Lifestream, IMHO. And these are just from this page. This is a place for serious discussion, and to carry a debate you need facts to support your argument. They can be from anywhere-- the Bible, editorials, books, National Geographic, Wikipedia.

Just please have something substantial to your posts other than "I don't believe/I believe end of story". And if you only want to say that, it's fine too, but please don't repeat it for the next ten posts without some sort of reasoning/musing/etc. behind it.
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goddess_in_pink07
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Mar 5 2006, 09:47 AM
Does anyone know where it states we're born sinner, cause I can't find it.  :no:

What do you mean? Like how we were all born with sin, or where (bible, books, anywheres)? Or are you just being sarcastic? Sorry, i'm pretty thick headed! :D
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Mar 4 2006, 10:25 PM
goddess, what on earth makes you think that your religion rules over all of us?

Ooh, we will all be judged hm?

Like that'll happen.

This arguement is pathetic. We are not going to convert, me and Xemnas, and you and ER arent going to read the link I bothered to post, so I think this topic should be locked.

XD

Then what do you think happens when you die? Your spirit just floats around?
If their isn't a kind of judgement at the end of life, then i guess people who murder, and all those other kinds of horrible things go unpunished?

So it doesn't matter what we do in life? We just die and thats it? We all just go to some utopia where everyone's happy?

And i never said we were all ruled by gods religion! I was only stating MY own frickin opinion!

Sorry for the double posting!! :D :D

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