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"meeting Her There...that Is My Dream"
Topic Started: Jun 24 2005, 07:36 PM (2,016 Views)
Kusari Yarou
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I love STA's ending, but I just don't think it'll be convincing enough to Cloti's.

But what's more important, showing the Cloti's who's 'right' or receiving a lovely ending that tells us Cloud chose Aerith over Tifa, even in her death? ^_^
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yin-chan
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But what's more important, showing the Cloti's who's 'right' or receiving a lovely ending that tells us Cloud chose Aerith over Tifa, even in her death?


You've said it again, Kusari!!!!! :cleris:
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Right on, Kusari. :) An ending that makes sense with the theme of the game, plus shows us that our pairing is the right pairing, is more than satisfactory. :) Most of the CloTis (maybe not the rabid ones, but the general fans) will probably understand if Cloud chooses Aerith in such an obvious fashion as in STA's ending. I mean, that's outright rejection of Tifa (in a subtle way) and there is no possible way to make that ending about Tifa at all. So I think, if we get an ending like that, it would be wonderful, Cloud would be in character, and it'd be a smoothe, subtle end to the love triangle. :) If they want to put Tifa together with Cloud after that, that's fine, but it'd be just like putting Yuffie with Cloud or Vincent with Cloud or Sephiroth with Cloud by then. With an end like STA's, Cloud and Aerith would be cannon, and Cloud and Tifa would become merely fannon. :)
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slowerthanaverage
Jun 26 2005, 05:23 PM
Tifa: Cloud, you are not leaving alone...
Cloud turns slowly and smiles: I am not alone. I never was...
And he places his right hand over his heart.

"Cloud smiles" theme plays.
Aerith's voice is heard: Let's go Cloud!

Sweet! lol

I was just rereading this thread again....and STA!! :lmao: How uncanny that your prediction of the ending was pretty similar to the ending of AC!!!!!!

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He says he's no longer alone because Aeris is with him and has always been. You hear Aeris's voice saying: "let's go, Cloud..." as he hops on Fenrir and speeds away into the sunset..


But instead of having her say "Let's Go, Cloud." we had her saying *spoiler* "You're alright now, aren't you?" */spoiler* and instead of speeding away into the sunset, we had Cloud speeding away in Calling!! :lmao: You guys could be fortune tellers!!! :lmao:

It's a bit freaky how close your ending predictions were to the real thing. :lmao: What with all the "Not alone" bits. :lmao:
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Kusari Yarou
Jul 7 2005, 04:09 AM
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I love STA's ending, but I just don't think it'll be convincing enough to Cloti's.

But what's more important, showing the Cloti's who's 'right' or receiving a lovely ending that tells us Cloud chose Aerith over Tifa, even in her death? ^_^

STA's ending was very similar to the way the movie ended, and it was lovely. But does everyone see now why I said it would leave things too open to interpretation? Some Cloti's are even claiming that Cloti was canonized in the movie, that the ending was nothing but a music video with no Cleris implications at all, and that Cloud went back to Tifa. I didn't want it left open to interpretation because I was afraid the Cloti's would react that way with an ending like this... and they did. <_<

Yes, it was a lovely ending... but Cloti's still think that Cloud went back to Tifa, just like I was afraid they would. They're even saying that Cloud and Tifa will be married, and that Tifa will be pregnant in DoC. So it wasn't concrete enough that Cloud chose Aerith even in death. Too many people remain totally unconvinced of that. <_<
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Shiva
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Yeah, but the people who are unconvinced are complete brain-dead, sex-obsessed morons. :rolleyes:
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FF_Goddess
Oct 19 2005, 02:11 PM
Yeah, but the people who are unconvinced are complete brain-dead, sex-obsessed morons. :rolleyes:

:lmao: True... but simple people need simple explanations, and there's way too many simpletons out there who can't understand the Cleris ending that AC provided. <_<
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Oct 20 2005, 01:11 AM
Yeah, but the people who are unconvinced are complete brain-dead, sex-obsessed morons. :rolleyes:

*splurts water all over keyboard*

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

Oh that made me laugh, how that made me laugh. :lmao:

I like to think AC is a test of intellectuals. Only those in strong denial will not be able to see the Clerisness - it was so obvious, it's shocking that some can't see it. It's like....that old story of the King and the Invisible Clothes (or something like that.) :P

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simple people need simple explanations, and there's way too many simpletons out there who can't understand the Cleris ending that AC provided.


:mellow: I only have one thing to say to those people : If thou hast a brain, thou shalt understand it. If not, my deepest condolences. :mellow:
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slowerthanaverage
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If you are talking about the same bunch of people who see Sephy as Cloud's light, I'm not expecting anything much from them :headbang:

Thanks yin-chan :blush: , just so you know....





Nomura loves me :peace:
lol...

*touches crystal ball*
Ah, I see a bright future for Cleris in KH2, Cloud will fulfill his role as Aerith's bodyuard and save her from the evil known as Sephiroth :dance2: lol ignore my offtopicness
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If you are talking about the same bunch of people who see Sephy as Cloud's light, I'm not expecting anything much from them


Yes, these are the people who believe (as well) that Cloud's light could = Tifa :lol:
You see, SE only stressed Aerith meeting up with Cloud at the end because they needed her to wish Cloud luck on finding his true light -------> Tifa. They'll be proven right in KH2, so they believe.

Gawd...talk about being desperate, and here I thought that to Clotis, KH was just an AU with no meaning at all. :hit:

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Nomura loves me


Never doubt that, wuv... :wub:

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I like to think AC is a test of intellectuals.


Heh...that's completely true. FFVII, AC, and the parallels of KH...well, the answers are all there. We just have to look deep enough to find those answers, because...SE said they left nothing hanging. Their intention wasn't to leave things open. However, different interpretations are possible because they're not expecting everyone to find those answers. :cloud:

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You guys could be fortune tellers!!!

It's a bit freaky how close your ending predictions were to the real thing.  What with all the "Not alone" bits.


STA and SE are just brilliant! It's almost magical when great minds think alike... :bow:

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But does everyone see now why I said it would leave things too open to interpretation? Some Cloti's are even claiming that Cloti was canonized in the movie, that the ending was nothing but a music video with no Cleris implications at all, and that Cloud went back to Tifa. I didn't want it left open to interpretation because I was afraid the Cloti's would react that way with an ending like this... and they did.


So true, and I think we all saw that coming. SE said they weren't going to contradict anyone's interpretation of the game, and for the most part, they kept true to their words. I always saw Cloud and Tifa as family, "more than friends, less than lovers". I could care less what Clotis think...and I'm certainly not surprised, considering that they've managed to so horibbly butcher the original game's ending, an ending KH pretty much reinforced for me.

We did not see Cloud thinking of Tifa, or running back to her with open arms. What we did see was a scene with just Cloud and Aerith. What SE bothers to stress is most important: Aerith is the one on his mind at the end. He's not alone. They are still spiritually connected, no matter how far apart (again, a concept reinforced by KH). We're shown that he's single...and his story ended there. Clotis are spewing fanfiction.
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CloTi's are ALWAYS spewing fanfiction....they were wrong about everything in AC before the movie came out, after the final product, and will be wrong about KH2 and DoC. Don't worry! ^_^
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