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| slowerthanaverage | Jun 21 2005, 02:47 PM Post #16 |
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Seems to me that by making Cloud leaving behind all things/people to live in isolation is already contradicting with some of the previous cloti interpretations that the ending hinted at Cloud getting over Aerith and getting on with Tifa. Aww comon SE you can do it! lol Kidding
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| Sefie | Jun 21 2005, 04:28 PM Post #17 |
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Exactly And isn't it contradicting other fans by not having Cloud searching for Aeris? Loving her? It's just like political correctness, you can't please EVERYBODY! |
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| Aerith's_Man | Jun 21 2005, 09:14 PM Post #18 |
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Lalalala Oh were you talking? Sorry I wasn't listening.
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you know I just re beat the game, and I was thinking about the ending. You know, if Cloud and Aeris reached hands and they meet in Ac that has some kinda connection. The ending says they are in love if you read between the lines and the trailers hint at it. So Condradicting is kinda of in the eye of the beholder since it kinda hints that Cloud and Aerith are in love. actually it doesn't hint, it says it bold face. |
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| fight the power | Aug 19 2005, 09:20 AM Post #19 |
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If Square ends AC with a cliffhanger, I will be pissed. They don't want to take sides? That's absurd. Square ought to take a moment and think about what the word "ending" means. There can only be one outcome in an ending, just as a Chess match isn't over until there are no more moves left. What they plan on doing is omitting the outcome becuase they cannot accept the weight of the responsibilty. The game made the same blunder by failing to provide closure, drawing fire from critics all over the gaming world. Have they learned nothing from that? AC is a once in a lifetime chance to redeem the "ending" of the game and provide a real ending, and now they're going to screw it up willingly...I can't accept that. |
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| Tacofoolio | Aug 19 2005, 04:07 PM Post #20 |
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We are number one. All others are number two, or lower.
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However, it did become one of the most popular games of all time despite it right? Also it kept us talking about still today. I do think that it'd be great to have something more final this time though, pun not intended. I don't think they need redemption, but I do think they should end the story without a lot of loose ties. I just hope it all comes together the way I'm hoping. |
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| Shiva | Aug 19 2005, 05:36 PM Post #21 |
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Good point, STA. S-E has already contradicted the CloTi belief that Cloud and Tifa were in love and Cloud chose to be with Tifa at the end of FFVII. According to the CloTis, Cloud and Tifa were snuggling up with each other in the final FMV, talking about their dead friend, and planning to go make babies together. :rolleyes: That has been proven wrong, based on what we have seen of AC so far. Cloud has been alone all this time. If Cloud and Tifa had shared an intimate moment beneath the Highwind, then why isn't he with her? That would be very callous of him to use Tifa like that. So, as far as I am concerned, the Highwind scene has also been proven wrong. I am sure CloTis interpret things differently, but I am looking at it from a logical perspective. There is nothing remotely CloTi in what I have seen of AC so far. So, it looks to me as if CloTi has already been contradicted. But, like Anastar said, I don't think they will have anything conclusive for either pairing at the end. I can still wish, though.
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| Eternity-Knight | Aug 20 2005, 07:07 PM Post #22 |
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I agree with you there Anastar. |
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| fight the power | Aug 22 2005, 10:09 AM Post #23 |
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For Pete's sake, Star Wars yielded seperate LukexLeia and HanxLeia interpretations, but the world didn't errupt into flames when HanxLeia was made canon in The Empire Strikes Back. And this was without the brother/sister justification! They have to end it now, unless they plan on a sequel (and they shouldn't, becuase we've waited 8 years and even tolerated The Spirits Within for our payoff...not to mention the pain of thinking that KH was Square's final answer for Cleris supporters (Cartoon All Stars to the Rescue had more artistic integrity, for heaven's sake!) On the other hand, perhaps Square is saying they won't resolve the LTD just to catch us off guard when they throw Cloud and Aerith smooching at us. I can dream, can't I?
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| Kaldea | Aug 22 2005, 11:28 AM Post #24 |
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Or... We can all just accept the fact that Cloud may end up single. I don't see how everyone can just say that Cloud HAS to end up with someone. I am quite sick of people assuming that he NEEDS to be in a relationship. There is a such thing as moving on with one's life alone and still finding happiness. |
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| Anastar | Aug 22 2005, 01:14 PM Post #25 |
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I completely agree, Jenova. I don't see why an ending to FFVII and closure to Cloud's story must include a resolution of the Love Triangle. FFVII wasn't primarily about the Love Triangle, and it isn't necessary for Cloud to be in love with anyone to find happiness. Many fans are curious about the Love Triangle and want to see a resolution of it. But the creators are probably looking at it in terms of "what would Cloud want"? Is a love relationship necessary for Cloud? I don't think so. There may have been criticism about the ending of FFVII not providing definite closure at the time that it was released, but I know many people who love the game's ending because it's open to interpretation. In fact, I heard a number of people complaining that AC may provide definite answers that may contradict the interpretation of different players. I heard many people say they wanted it left open to interpretation. In some respects, I have to agree with that. I would love a definite answer to the Love Triangle, but I would greatly prefer to have my interpretation of the Love Triangle left as a possible interpretation of the story than to have it canonized that Cloud's love interest in FFVII was actually Tifa. To me, an inconclusive ending would be far better than a definite Cloti ending. A definite Cloti ending would be very unfair to Cleris people, and a definite Cleris ending would be very unfair to Cloti's. It'd be much better for SE to leave it inconclusive, in my opinion. |
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| Tacofoolio | Aug 22 2005, 04:54 PM Post #26 |
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I would be ok with Cloud being single. But I will admit I'd rather him be with Aerith. I'd be very upset if it's Cloti because it just doesn't make sense to me. Even if they gave a legitimate reason, I still don't think their personalities work well together romantically. I will try to be ok with it if it goes that way, but it just doesn't seem right. I could see him alone much better than with Tifa, nothing against Tifa. |
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| fight the power | Aug 23 2005, 12:00 AM Post #27 |
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If the movie starts with Cloud being alone, and then ends with him being alone, the whole thing would seem like a pointless excersise. Then again, that might be better than Square trying to do a neutral ending by having him raising the kids with Tifa, because the family imagery alone would definately swing Cloti no matter how much they understate it. |
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| Kaldea | Aug 23 2005, 01:04 AM Post #28 |
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I don't see this "family" idea happening. I have never once thought Cloud was apart of some stupid family with Tifa, Denzel and Marlene. AC is about ACTION, not a Full House rerun. And FFVII was all about the story BEHIND the poorly done love triangle. If you think that Cloud not ending up with a girl is a pointless exercise regardless of any ACTUAL story, I feel sorry for you. |
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| Clerith-son | Aug 23 2005, 01:18 AM Post #29 |
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I wouldn't like him ending alone either, if they're not resolving the LT, not resolving... anything else. What's the point of making AC if they're not going to resolve anything? I don't think him ending alone would be pointless, but, that would be from my point of view a very bad ending. He needs to be healed, the only one who can do it is Aerith, that's been shown so many times, in so many different ways. |
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| fight the power | Aug 23 2005, 01:20 AM Post #30 |
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Hey, I just think that since the movie is about Cloud overcoming depression, he shouldn't be alone at the end. I'm not saying he needs a girl, I'm just saying that he shouldn't become a hermit. I guess you meant single as in a romantic relationship, so I suppose there's no point in me saying that. |
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