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| Witchcraft And Wizardry; The Harry Potter club! | |
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| Inuyatta | Jul 27 2007, 07:02 AM Post #271 |
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Cloud/Aerith Realist
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****OMG SPOILERS AHEAD***** I think it's more due to the fact that her writing is inconsistent. That and she set up a lot of things in previous books and interviews, yet did not deliver when it counted. For example: Ginny. We kept getting major hints that Ginny, being the 7th born and the only Weasley girl in 7 generations, was some sort of magical powerhouse--but when it came down to it, JK made her almost non-existent in the battle scenes. The romance--seems the only one she wrote well was R/Hr. She kept making the mistake of telling and not showing when it came to Harry/Ginny--also, the epilogue was very unsatisfactory. It was very much the awful OBWHF theory that the nay-sayers were saying it would be and I hate that they were pretty much proven right. We don't know what any of the trio or Ginny does for a living, we get no word on what happened with Luna, we don't know who Draco even married--we don't know what's going on with George and how he's coping after the battle...and the characters...aside from Ron, they all felt so bland. She could have been writing about strangers at King's Cross because that is very much what it felt like. The whole relationship of Remus/Tonks felt very...rushed. I mean, I didn't expect it when she wrote it in, but I was pleased and gave it a chance--and then it was always furthered on--but off page! It was rushed in every sense of the word, and every time we heard from Lupin about it, he always seemed to be regretting his decision or being quite douche-y--why did we never see what positive effects the relationship had on him? Or scratch that, how about just Tonks? What positive effect did she have on him? We never got to really see that, and while I liked them both individually, she wrote it so that it was hard to enjoy them together unless you fill in the blanks yourself--so it's hard to feel that emotional pull when she just offs them--in a very 'by the way...' manner. -_- It seems like she just threw them together in order to make the next gen orphan. She left a lot of things hanging, and having to go back and make an encyclopedia to fill in the parts she didn't get into the book? Seems like a cheap way to make even more money. Also, I'm disappointed at how she offed so many people when she only planned on 3 for sure--case in point: Remus and Tonks were offed in favor of Arthur Weasley. Er...she ended up killing like...ten people in this book alone, don't you think it rather stupid of her to off characters just to fill her own quota? We know war results in pointless deaths but we got that message when she took Mad-Eye and about fifty other students from Hogwarts, Babbage, etc. I read the book, and it was ok--but I certainly liked her earlier books better. |
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| Amaranth | Jul 27 2007, 10:14 AM Post #272 |
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The Lukewarm
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Harry and Ron become aurors. Harry is head of the department and they pretty much revolutionised the Ministry. It is now the good place to work, not the corrupt regime it once was under Fudge and Scrimgeour. Hermione is "pretty high up" in the Department of Magical Law Enforcement. Luna most likely travelled the world looking for mythical creatures but would later come to accept that some of what her father talks about simply isn't true. She would probably find things that others have not, though, because of her open-mind. Alternatively, instead of reading what I just typed, you can read this interview with JK - http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19959323/ ![]() As for Tonks and Lupin. They weren't so much main characters so I wasn't bothered that we didn't get to see their wedding or anything. If we had had Tonks/Lupin and also Fleur/Bill, it would have been too much, I think. The way it was worked well for me, and I loved both Tonks and Lupin as characters. Only fitting that they were together in death. |
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| Anti-R | Jul 27 2007, 02:55 PM Post #273 |
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the girl who becomes a prince
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JKR actually considers Neville and Luna. XD Which is awesome. I wished how Hogwarts fared under the "new regime" was fleshed out more. Neville's brief exposition during all that time made me want more. |
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| Zee | Jul 27 2007, 03:46 PM Post #274 |
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rabbit heart
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Oh, god, I hate the romance and I think JKR should be banned from ever writing it, but it's really the book as a whole. Doesn't matter if it's canon or not. The writing style is very reminiscent of fanfiction. Simply put, her writing style is just not up to par imo. Inuyatta, I agree with you on pretty much all counts except for this one:
I thought they were all terrible. Ron's self help book just solves his problems? Oh god, lame. It's like, "Oh, page 59! Don't scream at her when she forms an opinion!" If he neeed a book to tell him stuff like that, they didn't need to ever be together in the first place.
It's even hinted that Tonk's son will be a part of OBHWF. >_>; They are taking over.
Would it have killed her to actually put that in the book, though, rather than that cheesefest epilogue ? I really didn't care who got paired with who at the end, I was more curious with the subjects she touched on -- like wizards always being at the top of the food chain, so to speak. Is Hermione working to change this in her job? How is a post-war world? You can't have an event like that happen and have the world not change. |
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| Inuyatta | Jul 27 2007, 04:09 PM Post #275 |
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Cloud/Aerith Realist
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Zelda: I didn't care for Ron when he was obviously using that book, but for the parts when it was just him, I was glad for it. Something finally sank into that head of his, and his concern for the house elves won it for me. I guess I should have said R/Hr towards the latter half of the book was acceptable. XD Otherwise, word--Jk could have put all of that info in the epilogue and I wouldn't have been half as bored. |
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| Sadhana | Jul 27 2007, 04:49 PM Post #276 |
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capitalism is dead
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The thing about JKR is that she was never a really good writer. She's too blunt, the plot makes the book, and she forces things sometimes. While that would usually mean a bad book, the difference with her is that she writes a fantastic story. She pulls you in, gives you exciting battles, tragic deaths, and unforgettable characters. So as much as I've never liked her style of writing, I don't mind it because she has the glorious exception of still being able to write a good story. As far as I'm concerned, this was the best book in the series. I loved it! The epilouge was a little cheesy, but contrasted against the darkness that Harry had to deal with in books 1-7, I didn't mind OBHWF so much. And as much as it initially bothered me that she put so little into the epilouge, once I read her explaination of what made her do that, I realized that she was probably right in leaving it vague. |
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| Anti-R | Jul 27 2007, 05:04 PM Post #277 |
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I actually like how Ron won Hermione over... figuring out to get into the Chamber of Secrets, saying concern over the house-elves after the experience with Kreacher and Dobby, going ballistic when Bellatrix is torturing her. The book has nothing to do with it. It was awesome. Ron is in his finest in this book. I AM disappointed with Harry and Ginny. But oh well, I guess JKR really likes the angst of it all. And I agree with Sadhana... JKR isn't good with her writing prose. Jane Austen's a lot better. |
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| nyrin | Oct 20 2007, 05:41 AM Post #278 |
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Water tribe what!
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Yes I've revived this topic to give you some CRAZY ASS Harry Potter news. It's not a spoiler but it may seriously change your perception of the books so I'll put it in white: I'm warning you, you might want to turn back. According to JK Rowling as said here http://www.mugglenet.com/app/news/show/1272 Dumbledore is not only gay but he was in love with Grindewald! OMG I kind of knew it all along though. At least from book 7. |
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| Pyra Kurai Akaidra | Oct 20 2007, 08:06 AM Post #279 |
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Proud Yaoi Fan
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I thought I was one of the crazy fans who think so, but LOL'D at the confirmation. Should've known it was true. Let the HP fanfiction expand further in population! |
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| Zee | Oct 20 2007, 08:49 AM Post #280 |
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rabbit heart
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DAMN YOU BEAT ME TO IT. OH WELL. *dances anyway* |
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| Lynn | Oct 20 2007, 03:55 PM Post #281 |
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Lynn has no Lloud smut ;-;
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Whoa. For some reason, that sort of info was the LAST thing I expected to hear about! I actually double-checked to see if it was April 1. ![]() Spoiler comment but not really... Though imagine if she'd been talking about Sirius or Lupin. I think the fandom would've exploded. O_o |
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| Sadhana | Oct 20 2007, 05:14 PM Post #282 |
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capitalism is dead
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Yeah, I heard about that. Honestly, I just kind of imagined him as asexual. So this is out of nowhere for me, but I just feel.... indifferent really lol. I would've preferred if this kind of thing was confirmed in the books and not randomly now that they're over. |
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| nyrin | Oct 20 2007, 05:30 PM Post #283 |
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Water tribe what!
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Lol I totally agree. Now that would have been a head turner!
It does feel a little left field. I mean, I don't think I would have liked it in the books, but I'm kind of iffy about her talking about it aftewards too. I mean it's an awesome surprise but...I'd rather if she didn't tell us and just let each fan interpret it the way they wanted. After DH I kind of suspected it but without conformation it was like...just a hunch that didn't need to be taken further. Now with confirmation... I don't think I'll ever look at Dumby the same way again mostly because I too imagined him to be completely asexual. I mean he's the kindly old mentor for goodness sakes! |
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| Alantie | Oct 20 2007, 07:12 PM Post #284 |
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Dreams the world far away
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Darnit! You guys beat me to it!!! ![]() Honestly, I didn't even think about it as being a possibility. But then maybe I'm just completely naive. ![]() nyrin, you hit it right on the head. I never really thought about him any other way either. I kinda speculated that maybe he had some tragic romance but this. . . It's kinda too much for me, lol. And I don't know, it puts some stuff on him that I think JKR should have just left alone as one of those things she laughs about but refuses to reveal, you know? I don't think I'm going to dare read any fanfiction for HP anymore, lol. I'm terrifed to think what might explode now that this is out in the open! Can you just imagine? Now people actually have something legitmate to write their p0rn with.
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| Zee | Oct 20 2007, 07:30 PM Post #285 |
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rabbit heart
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No no, I didn't think of it either. These theories about Dumbledore are totally new to me, shows you how out of touch I am with that fandom. XD; I also saw him as just the mentor, but like Harry I suppose, I forgot he had a life outside Hogwarts. Then again I sorta sleepwalked through book seven so maybe that's why I didn't notice. |
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