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Final Fantasy 8; ...Liberi Fatali...
Topic Started: Feb 18 2005, 07:04 PM (1,205 Views)
Aprillis
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It's more likely that they thought about it, but scrapped the idea.

Yeah, I think so too.

But I wished they didn't put emphasis on the Griever ring and then brushed it away without any explaination to as why the matter was brought up in the first place. And why we were allowed to draw the Griever GF from Ultimecia but couldn't use it since it was the final battle anyways.

And I ALSO wished they'd give a history lesson about Ultimecia's motives and how she came into existance. It bothers me that there was so many unresolved issues in the game. (Like Laguna = Squall's father)
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Didn't like it. But it's an OK FF.

The Rinoa and Squall romance is forced for me. I couldn't see how he fell in love with her in disk 3. I was taken by surprise for this. Cloud and Aerith, Tidus and Yuna, Cecil and Rosa, Zidane and Dagger were more convincing.

Didn't like Rinoa. I was hoping she'd grow a spine in the course of the game and stood up for herself, I dislike being forced to rescue her again and again for the sake of the plot.

The orphanage scene is kind of lame. I didn't like the whole "GF kills your memory cells!", it was also a dull way to explain the other characters' past.

Seifer teasing Zell is cute though.

I actually felt bad for Ultimecia, despite her lack of character. I'm under the impression she is doomed by the very loop she created. No matter how she tries to screw up the past, she'll only be defeated, and again and again some more. There's nothing she can do about it at all.
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You could draw Griever from Ultimecia? Seriously? :woot: Too bad you can't use him though! <_< He would've made an excellent GF, and could probably inflict as much damage as Eden. :angel:

I agree though, Anti-R, that the "GFs kills off your memory cells!" was kind of weird. But it also had a scrap of FF7-ness --- Materia cuts off your HP, but it increases your MP. A double-edged sword, like what Cloud said. ^_^
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I agree, FF_G - seeing Rinoa and Squall together was like seeing Cloud and Aeris together again.

For me, Squall and Rinoa was like Cloud-and-Aeris Lite. Kinda similar, but not as moving or powerful. :yawn:

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The Rinoa and Squall romance is forced for me. I couldn't see how he fell in love with her in disk 3.

I didn't like it too much either...bowl o mush compared to Cloud and Aerith's powerful love story. And it took center stage in the game when there were other things Square could have developed :whistle:

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Didn't like Rinoa. I was hoping she'd grow a spine in the course of the game and stood up for herself, I dislike being forced to rescue her again and again for the sake of the plot

Yup, I feel the same way about Rinoa. She gets rescued more times than Tifa and Aerith put together! And though I admit that she had a well-rounded, developed personality, i never grew to like it.
She can kick ass in battles, though. I used her most among my female characters

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The orphanage scene is kind of lame.

Hey now, I loved that scene. They were all so cute! :P

Hmmm, Aprillis, I think I'm gonna have to read that Ultimecia-Rinoa theory all over again...
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For me, Squall and Rinoa was like Cloud-and-Aeris Lite. Kinda similar, but not as moving or powerful.

:lol: Yeah, I agree... it wasn't as moving or as powerful as CloudxAerith at all. I was glad to see Squall and Rinoa together at the end of it, though.

I didn't mind Rinoa at all. I can't say that she's one of my very favorite Final Fantasy characters, but she never bothered me, either. I always used her in my party, too, and I thought she was a good fighter. I always enjoyed using her dog, too. Her dog made the killing blow to Ultimecia for me in one game - go, Angelo!! :lol:

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But I wished they didn't put emphasis on the Griever ring and then brushed it away without any explaination to as why the matter was brought up in the first place.

Yeah, I wish we would have learned more about it, too. That part always puzzled me... although I wonder if Ultimecia "designed" GF Griever from something in Squall's mind that he considered powerful. It's sorta like making Squall fight against himself - almost like psyching him out. Wouldn't Ultimecia be able to conjure up a GF of her own? :unsure:
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I didn't mind Rinoa at all. I can't say that she's one of my very favorite Final Fantasy characters, but she never bothered me, either. I always used her in my party, too, and I thought she was a good fighter. I always enjoyed using her dog, too. Her dog made the killing blow to Ultimecia for me in one game - go, Angelo!!  :lol:



I agree very much. Me and my elder sister got kind of ticked that we had to keep rescuing Rinoa (>_<), but seeing her with Squall made me think so strongly of Cloud and Aeris --- which was fully okay with me. My sister didn't like Rinoa, but she loved Squall, especially at the end when he smiled. ^_^

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Hey now, I loved that scene. They were all so cute!  :P



I know!!! :huggle: It was like seeing them all chibified and in their younger versions! ^_^ But Squall was alone most of the time, wasn't he? :unsure: The cutest parts were when Seifer teased Zell... :lmao:
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I loved Squall and Rinoa's romance. I liked how they got together in the middle of the game, I wish they got together earlier, like on disc one or two instead of waiting until disc three. I loved all their sweet, mushy scenes in disc three and four. The sorceress theme was cool. I liked Squall and Rinoa's story so much. I loved how Squall fell for Rinoa, and the eyes on me scene and the sorceress memorial scene and the promise scene. It was so sweet. If you get the good date in disc two, then it shows how Squall fell for Rinoa.

You have to get all the instruments right and you see Squall open up and Rinoa tell him she loves him subtely. If you get the good date, then you really see how Squall opened up to Rinoa. I loved Squall and Rinoa's story and I think I loved Squall and Rinoa's story a little more then Cloud and Aerith's because they got together. Couples that get together early on or in the middle are always high on my list because I love relationships together during the game and I love sweet, romance and mushy moments. Hee. I liked the Final Fantasy games' stories of Squall and Rinoa, Zidane and Garnet, Zidane and Dagger, Cecil and Rosa, and more. Since I played every Final Fantasy game, I really liked all of the stories. Anyway, I wished that Squall and Rinoa got together earlier and it showed them falling for each other earlier. A lot of references made by Squall when he's together with Rinoa are from the happy version of the date. When Squall quotes Rinoa on the Ragnorak, the qutoe is from the good date. I wish they made the good date the real date, kind of like how they should have made a certain ff7 date canon.

In the good date, Squall asks Rinoa questions about her plans for the future and more. When I did my ff movie films (After I beat games a lot fo times I decide to rebeat them and film them), I filmed both date versions in a row, one after the other, and the difference is tremendous. It seemed like Squall liked Rinoa and Seifer and Rinoa won Squall's heart. Squall and Seifer were best friends and Rinoa was Squall's girlfriend.

Final Fantasy VIII is a lot like Final Fantasy IV. I loved both games, and the games are very similar.

I loved how Squall and Rinoa got together in the middle of the game, but I wish they had gotten together earlier so we would've seen more scenes with them.
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If you get the good date in disc two, then it shows how Squall fell for Rinoa.

Hmmm UM, I haven't tried to analyze those two as much as I've analyzed Cloud and Aerith ( like I said, they are Cloud-n-Aerith Lite to me :D ) but I think they hadn't fallen in love yet in that date. They were beginning to.

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It seemed like Squall liked Rinoa and Seifer and Rinoa won Squall's heart. Squall and Seifer were best friends and Rinoa was Squall's girlfriend.

She wasn't really "officially" Squall's girlfriend throughout the game. I mean, he didn't ask will you be my girlfriend or anything :P And gosh, Seifer and Squall, best friends??? :o Ahhh, Seifer and Squall are the farthest thing from best friends! They are rivals. Have been, ever since.

Anyone else here who liked Seifer? I did. Well, not exactly liked, more like I was fascinated by him. He had such a twistedly arrogant mind and was outrageously ambitious but when everything fell apart, even his most trusted cohorts abandoned him. He came off looking pretty pathetic.
I was a little disappointed that Square never explained why he turned out htat way. They resorted to showing us that he’s been a bullying git since he was a kid “and that’s why he’s like that now”.

Oooh, there's another kawaii thing i remember about the orphanage scenes.I loved the way they talked when they were kids. Saying “yoo” instead of “you” and “Matwyin” instead of “Matron” Awwwwwwww!!!! :sad:
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Rinoa was Squall's girlfriend. When you start going out with someone, a lot of the time it happens without asking. A lot of couples become girlfriend and boyfriend without asking, it happens naturally. Also, Seifer was his best friend, if you look at all his quotes on the first two discs, Seifer was his first friend. Rinoa was Squall's girlfriend and Squall's only love. I liked Seifer too. Seifer had a lot of great quotes. I wish he came back to the party. The whole game I thought he'd come back, but he didn't. Squall, Rinoa and Seifer are my fav FFVIII cahracters. Rinoa and Seifer were the two people Squall showed the most respect/love for.
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Now now, I'm certainly not contradicting the fact that she was his love interest!

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A lot of anime couples/video game couples become girlfriend and boyfriend without asking
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Uhhhh...okay...if that's the way you perceive. I was just saying that it wasn't "official"

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Also, Seifer was his best friend, if you look at all his quotes on the first two discs

What quotes???
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I'm sorry. I didn't mean to sound rude! :o Sorry if I came across that way. I didn't mean to come across that way at all! :) A lot of times when I type I mean it as nice/playful, but since when you type you can't hear someone's voice, it may have a harsh tone. Anyway, a lot of anime/manga/live action/video game couples in Japan become boyfriend/girlfriend early on. They have lots and lots of sweet kisses/hugs/get married and call each other girlfriend/boyfriend, but when they first get together, it comes naturally and is really sweet, but they don't say "Will you be my ____", because it's said they are already together. Most of anime/manga/live action/video game couples in Japan that get married are boyfriend and girlfriend throughout most of the series, have lots and lots of kisses and hugs, call each other boyfriend and girlfriend, but when they get together, they don't ask to go out, they get together natually. The American version of "Official" is a bit different. Theirs a lot of cultural differences and a lot of stories about how culture clashes are different depending on which country your from. I'm from America but I love reading/watching/playing lots of anime/manga/live action/video games and more. In series, I love couples that are boyfriend and girlfriend throguhout the series and get together early on in the first/second season and are together for the majority of the series. A lot of times in Japan, the way asking someone out and marriage proposals can be differently. Giving someone a ring and saying "I Love You", asking someone if they want to be together each day, asking someone to marry you, asking someone to live with you and always be in your house, giving someone a ring are all ways of marriage proposals. I've watched lots of anime and read lots of manga and watches lots of live actions shows from Japan in Japanese. Anyway, back to the topic. They were official, because everybody said they were together and they said were together. On the teasing thing, a lot of times teasing and arguing and fighting is more closeness and sweetness. Well, that's how it was with my boyfriend and I before we got together. *Blushes a bit* My boyfriend and I used to argue a lot before we got together. Ah, *blushes* I shouldn't have used that example.


Some quotes for both I didn't put in order and some aren't word-for-word, I replaced some of the him/her/them with names.


Squall "I don't know what to do..."
"This is just another crossroad in my life. But, for the first time, I don't know which way to go."
"I've come this far because I've...fallen for you."
"......Rinoa......"
"Now...am I just supposed to let you go...?"


Squall "GOD!!!!!! Rinoa is gonna die!...I can't take it. Ellone, please."
"I've never felt this way in my life."


Rinoa "Squall!"
"Thank you."


Squall "It was, ah...don't worry about it."
"It was my job. We're still under contract. And it was everybody else's idea, too."
"And I just happened to find you. That's all."
"So like I said, don't worry about it."


Rinoa "You know something, I couldn't afford to fall off that cliff and die."
"I have something very important that belongs to you."
"I can't die until I give it back to you, right?"
"Zell gave it to me, see? I've been holding onto it."

Squall (I'm gonna kill him...)
"That's my favorite ring. You'd better give it back."

Rinoa "I'm sure it is. It's a cool-looking ring. What's this monster on it anyway?"

Squall "It's not a monster. It's a lion."
"Lions are known for their great strength and pride."

Rinoa "Hmm...great strength...pride......Kinda like you, Squall."

Squall "I wish..."

Rinoa "Hmm...so this L I O N of yours. Does it have a name?"

Squall "Of course."

Rinoa "So that's what you call it."
"You know Zell said he'll make me one exactly like it."
"Who knows, maybe I can become like a lion, too."
"That'd be crazy, huh!? I mean, everyone might, y'know, get the wrong idea about us."

Squall (If it's so crazy, why do you sound so delighted?)
(Everyone is trying to get us together.)
(It's so obvious even I can tell.)
"You sound like you want everyone to get the wrong idea."

Rinoa "We all love you. There, I said it. Please don't freak out. We just wanna live, y'know, live through this time with you, together."

Squall "......Together...?"

Rinoa "Keep it in the back of your mind."
"Call on us whenever you need to."
"We'll be waiting."
"Like I said, who knows what's gonna happen in the future...but I have a feeling we'll be together for a while."
"So, what's on your mind? Do you have any dreams, Squall? Anything you want to do with your life?"

Squall (......I've never thought about it.)
"That's something I'd rather not talk about."
"What about you?"

Rinoa "...I don't know. I guess I'd rather not talk about the future, either."
"But right now..."
"...I wanna stay right here...like this."

Rinoa "Squall?"
"You have to voice your feelings, or else I won't understand."

Squall "You were...part of a resistance movement in Timber, right?"
"Unlike others who are all talk, you took to your weapon and fought..."
"And now you're saying all this? What happened to you?"

Squall (......Rinoa)


Squall "Where's Rinoa?"


Squall (Rinoa...You feel so cold.)
(Are you going to be like this forever?)
"......"
"Isn't there anything I can do!?"
"You were so full of life."
"Now you don't even make a sound..."
"I want to hear you voice."
(This is like talking to a wall.)
"Rinoa...Call my name."
(......)


Squall (Rinoa......Where are you?)
(I'm gonna find you, no matter what.)
(I have to get in front of her......And catch her...)


Rinoa "Squall...thank you."
"I heard your voice."


Squall "...I can't believe it."


Rinoa "Are we gonna make it?"

Squall "Don't worry."

Squall "Rinoa, hold on..."

Rinoa "The space suit was in our way before."

Squall (Huh?)

Rinoa "Give me a hug."

Squall (...?)

Rinoa "A real tight one!"
"I need to know that I'm alive!"

Squall (...Alive?)
(We still have to get back.)
"We may be alive right now...But look at our situation..."
"You want to live, right? You want to go back and see everyone, right?"

Rinoa "And not become other people's memories?"

Squall "That's right."


Squall "Thanks."

Rinoa "Hey!?"

*Squall jumps up and takes her inn his arms*


Squall "Go sit over there. Put your seatbelt on."

*Rinoa sits in Squall's lap*

Squall "Now go sit down."

Rinoa "Just a little longer."

Squall "Why are you holding on to me like this?"

Rinoa "You don't like this, Squall?"

Squall "Just not used to it."

Rinoa "How about when you were little?"
"Didn't you feel safe and secure being held by your parents?"

Squall "I can't remember anything about my parents..."
"But...Ellone was there for me."
"Ellone was there to hold my hand."

Rinoa "Made you feel safe and secure?"

Squall "Sure."
"But she left. Just disappeared."
"I'm afraid..."
"Afraid of having that feeling of comfort taken away."

Rinoa "You were afraid of losing us?"
"Is that why you kept your distance?"

Squall "I was always alone..."

Rinoa "Squall..."
"You missed out on all the good things in life."
"You've missed out on so much."

Squall "...Maybe."

Rinoa "Definitely."
"I like it like this."
"I liked having my mom hold me."
"May dad, too, back when we got along."

Squall "I'm not your mom."

Rinoa "No, of course not."
"But now...Squall, you're the one who gives me the most comfort."
"Comfort and happiness..."
"And annoyance and disappointment, too!"

Squall "...Whatever."

Rinoa "...Whatever."

Squall "You should get back to your seat now."

Rinoa "Just a little longer."

Squall (You'll be safer in your seat.)

Rinoa "We're gonna make it home, right?"

Squall "We can only hope."

Rinoa "When we get back...We won't be able to stay together, huh?"

Squall "...Maybe."
"No one can predict the future, there are no guarantees."
"Those were your word, Rinoa."

Rinoa "That's not what I meant."

Squall "We'll figure out what to do once we get back."

<Rinoa sits in her seat.>


Rinoa "They'll all be angry at me."

Squall "Angry?"

"This is Airstation. Ragnarok, please respond."

Squall "This is the Ragnarok."

"We have some questions for you."
"We're collecting escape pods."
"We have a good idea of what happened."
"I hear no one from Lunar Base is on the Ragnarok."
"How many of you are there?"

Squall "Just two."

"......Your names?"

Squall "Squall. I'm a SeeD from Balamb Garden."

"And the other?"

Squall "...Rinoa."

"Rinoa? The sorceress!? She's on the ship!?"

Squall (So...It's true? Rinoa is a sorceress?)

Rinoa "I've...become a sorceress. I can't stay with you anymore, Squall."

"Respond, Ragnarok!"

Rinoa "I don't want the future. I want the present to stand still. I just want to stay here with you..."

Squall (Rinoa...)

"Respond, Ragnarok!"

Rinoa "Nobody would want to be around me anymore..."

"The sorceress will be seized upon arrival. Be sure to follow the crews instructions."

Rinoa "I'm...scared."

"Squall, do you copy? Is the sorceress listening, too?"

*Squall shuts off machine*

Rinoa "I'm scared, Squall."

Rinoa "I don't wanna go back."

*Squall kneels by Rinoa and hugs her*

Squall "Rinoa! Don't go!"

Rinoa "......Thanks, Squall. But I have to go..."

Squall (......Rinoa.)

Rinoa "......Oh...I still have your ring."

Squall "You keep it."

Rinoa "You sure?"

Squall "Yeah..."

Squall (What am I doing...?)
(I may never get to hear Rinoa's voice again...)

Squall "The only thing I know is Rinoa."
"The only thing I want to do for sure right now is for Rinoa."
"We're going to get Rinoa back!"

Squall "...I know what I want and what I have to do."
"...There's still a chance. I'm not gonna look back."
"I'm taking Rinoa with me."

Squall "Rinoa, hold on! I'll get you out in a sec!"

<Squall punches the glass.>

Squall "What am I supposed to do!? Come on!"

<Squall cuts the wires.>

*Squall and Rinoa hug*

Rinoa "Squall, don't! I'm a sorceress."

Squall "I don't care."

*Squall and Rinoa hug*

Squall "Let's go."

Squall "Get what?"

Selphie "I never imagined you two would end up together."
"I mean...You guys are complete opposites."
"So I didn't think Rinoa's straight-forward approach would work."
"I'm glad I was wrong!"

Rinoa "What about you, Selphie?"

Rinoa "What'll become of me?"

Squall "Don't worry about it."
"There've been many good sorceresses. Edea was one."
"You can be like her."

Rinoa "But Edea's still..."
"I can't guarantee anything, either, if Ultimecia possesses me again..."
"You saw me. She controlled me in outer space and made me break Adel's seal."
"What might happen next time?"
"What will I end up doing?"
"Will I end up fighting everyone?...Scary thought, isn't it?"

Squall (Rinoa......)
(Even if you end up as the world's enemy,)
(I'll...)
(I'll be your knight.)

Rinoa "If I fall under Ultimecia's control again..."
"SeeD will come kill me, right?"
"And the leader of SeeD is you, Squall..."
"Squall's sword will pierce my heart......"
"I guess it's ok if it's you, Squall. Nobody else."
"Squall, if that ever happens..."

Squall "That's enough!"
"I'll never do anything like that. The sorceress I'm after is not you, Rinoa."
"My enemy is the sorceress from the future...Ultimecia."

Rinoa "Ultimecia lives in the future and possesses me."
"She uses my body as her extension into this world."
"How? How will you save me?"

Squall "I'll come up with something...There's gotta be a way."

Rinoa "......"

Squall "Don't worry. Trust me."

Rinoa "...I trust you."
"Well, until you find a way, maybe..."
"Maybe I should stay in Esthar, at the memorial? Wouldn't that be better?"

Squall "No...That'd be pointless."
"I'll just end up gong after you again."
"Rinoa...Just stay close to me."

Rinoa "Oh..."
"Those words!"

Squall "What?"

Rinoa "That's what started everything."

Squall "What are you talking about?"

Rinoa "You don't remember?"

Squall "Something I said?"

Rinoa "Oh, just forget it!"

Squall "No, it's because of the GF. That's why I forgot."

Rinoa "That's just an excuse."

Squall "Feeling better?"

Rinoa "Yeah."
"Can I tell you a story?"
"I had a dream. It was a scary dream."
"We make a promise. We promise to see shooting stars together."
"I get dressed up and put on your ring."
"But the thing is, I can't remember where I'm supposed to meet you."
"I start to panic. I really want to see you, Squall, but I don't know where to go."
"I start running through the mountains, the desert, the plains...Through Timber, Balamb and Galbadia..."
"When I realize I can't run any longer...I...I just want to see you so badly..."
"So I scream, Squall, where are you!?"
"Then I woke up. I was crying."
"I'm sorry. You don't have to say anything."
"I just felt like I had to tell you."

Squall "It was just a dream..."
"It doesn't mean anything."
"Don't worry about it."

Rinoa "...I guess you're right."

Squall "How about this..."
"I'll be here..."

Rinoa "...Why?"

Squall "The reason why you couldn't find me was because we haven't promised yet."

Rinoa "Promised...?"

Squall "I'll be waiting for you. If you come here, you'll find me. I promise."

Rinoa "I'll be here, too. It's a promise!"
"Thanks, Squall!"
"Next time, we'll meet for sure!"

Squall (Let's go, Rinoa. Let's go meet Ellone.)
(Ellone will bring us together.)

Squall (First time we met was the day I became a SeeD. We met again...in Timber...)
(We had a lot of arguments at first. But in time, things began to change.)
(You were looking at me...You smiled when our eyes met.)
(It made me feel calm, tranquil.)
(Rinoa...Give me another chance.)

Squall "You're used to battles, aren't you?"

Rinoa "I couldn't...I just couldn't."
"I couldn't fight alone..."

Squall (...You're not ready for all this.)
"Better get going."

Squall "I haven't forgotten your order."
"Just stay close to me."

Rinoa "I'll...Probably disappear..."

Squall "Just stay by my side. I won't let you disappear!!!"


Seifer "I love battles. I fear nothing."
"The way I look at it, as long as you make it out of battle alive, you're one step closer to fulfilling your dream."

Squall "What!? Your dream?"

Seifer "You have one too, don't you?"

Squall "...Sorry, but I'm gonna pass on that subject."

Squall (I liked Seifer... wasn't really a bad guy...He was one of us...)

Squall (Seifer... You've become just a memory.)

Squall (...Feel sorry? Seifer wouldn't want to to hear that.)

Squall (Is Seifer ever coming back?)

Squall (That's just to ease your mind. Am I the only one who thinks that? No, I'm sure Seifer...)

Squall (Seifer...)

Squall (Seifer was there...)

Squall (But... Now, you're just...)

Squall (He's sided with the sorceress. You guys alright with that?)

Squall (...Could Seifer here, too?)

Squall (Seifer probably thinks he can't go back now.)

Squall (...So Seifer's alive.)

Squall (Would I have to go through Seifer?)



Ahhhh! My post was so long. I hope I didn't come across sounding rude again! :no: :D :P :lol: :) ^_^
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No that's okay, you didn't sound rude :D I don't fully accept the Japanese perception of boyfriend and girlfriend but that's just because of cultural differences(I'm from the Philippines). My perception was that those labels of "boyfriend" and "girlfriend" are just names but it doesn't matter as long as two people love each other. So when you're saying that they're "boyfriend and girlfriend throughout the series before they got together", I view it as "they loved each other and then they got together" It's just a matter of different perspectives, I guess :P

Those quotes are interesting. Now here's my view on Seifer. I don't think Squall and Seifer were best friends in that buddy-buddy way. For me, they were really not friends. They were rivals.But I think they did influence each other in a reverse psychological way. Seifer fed his ego from bullying Squall. Squall was determined to prove himself because he wanted to prove Seifer's taunts wrong. So unconsciously, even with that enmity between them,they were helping each other grow stronger. Squall only just realized that when Seifer finally left them to fulfill his "ambitions". He says he liked Seifer...I think he meant he liked how Seifer helped him grow. Of course, yaoi fans would perceive that in a different light :unsure:
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Holy baloney! Did you paste the entire FFVIII game script here??

And about the Squall liking Seifer thing, I don't think anything ever happened. AT ALL. They were rivals and stayed rivals. There were no affectionate exchange throughout the game, so there's no basis to the Squall/Seifer pairing.

But if it's for fandom's sake, then I guess it's alright to like that couple.
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I said Squall loved Rinoa, his girlfriend and love and liked Seifer as a friend. Squall shows he loves Rinoa and likes Seifer. The first one we know because Squall and Rinoa get together in disc three and become boyfriend/girlfriend. They admit their love. In the first two discs Squall says he liked Seifer and respected him a lot, as he thinks about him a lot and Seifer is the first person Squall shows respect for. For discs one and the first half of two, Squall's thoughts are about Seifer, for the second half of disc two and discs three and four, Squall's thoughts are about Rinoa. When Squall and Rinoa get together, Squall is completely devoted to Rinoa and has lots of romantic scenes with her and is always loyal to her. Throughout the game, Rinoa and Seifer are the two people Squall shows the most respect for. I made an FFVIII video and can access any scene at any time.

I apologize for the long list of quotes. If it's taking up too much bandwith I'll delete them.
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The first one we know because Squall and Rinoa get together in disc three and become boyfriend/girlfriend.

I still don't... ah, never mind. UM, I'm afraid we shall never reach an agreement about that boyfriend/girlfriend definition thing due to our different perspectives. So let's just leave it as it is, shall we? ;)

About Seifer, yeah Squall did respect him. Like I said, they always had this unusual reverse psychological connection between them ever since they were kids. That is, Squall always seemed to respect Seifer despite the fact that Seifer always bullied him to feed his ego. The question is, does Seifer respect Squall?
When he clapped for him after the SeeD exam, I wasn't sure to take it as sincere or sarcastic. He knocked him down during their opening duel and practically sliced his head open...not a very respectful gesture, is it, slashing your oponent while he's down?
Seifer doesn't seem to respect anything besides his own ambitions. And everything he does seems to revolve around that inflated ego of his. So when his pride got injured by not passing the SeeD exam, he took drastic measures and tried to fulfill his dream of becoming the Sorceress' Knight. He didn't want to feel like nobody. His pride wouldn't allow it.

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And about the Squall liking Seifer thing, I don't think anything ever happened. AT ALL. They were rivals and stayed rivals. There were no affectionate exchange throughout the game, so there's no basis to the Squall/Seifer pairing.

Rabid yaoi fangirls are crazy. Evidence, schmevidence; Proof, schmoof; as long as they can get two bishies in bed, they will look for basis that isn't there They took advantage into that rival connection between Squall and Seifer and turned it into hardcore yaoi-lovin <_<
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