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| True Serenity | Sep 1 2007, 04:15 AM Post #181 |
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I'm starting to like Zeris more now because of their sweet scenes in CC, but if it were to be a canon couple NOW after AC and all that, I'd be disappointed. :lol: It wouldn't be as unique as the love story going on between Cloud and Aerith in FFVII. I was always much more fond of them interacting than any other couple--especially since it's with Cloud, the angsty Chocobo-head of greatness. ^^; If Zeris were to happen again as a romance in the Lifestream, to me it would look so typical and ordinary. "The ladies' man-hero guy and flower girl-saint togetha foreva!!! =D" Imho Aerith didn't seem to be so depressed about Zack when he "disappeared" for a long while. When it came to being separated from Cloud, MoTP showed that she felt strongly in pain after feeling his and didn't want to leave his side. And it's clear as ever that Aerith really loves Cloud too, even after "reuniting" with her first love. Deep connectionz yo. I really love how that is.
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| Kuraudo | Sep 1 2007, 04:35 AM Post #182 |
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So true, TS. One of the aspects that sets Cloud and Aerith's love story apart from the rest is that they're unable to be together physically. But they still have their wonderful spiritual connection. I sort of associate Calling with this, sort of like Cloud and Aerith bridging the gap between them by meeting that way. Which is why I always go "Awwwww" when I watch it. I've never been particularly fond the Zeris pairing, but as long as it stays young love and in the PAST, I'm fine with it. And I'll admit, it is sort of cute. :lol: And I agree that Aerith didn't seem terribly excited upon meeting Zack in the Lifestream, unlike what some rabids say. It seemed to me that Zack and Aerith are just very dear friends now, which I think makes their relationship a little more genuine. MOtP proves Aerith belongs to Cloud! Which is why I'm a little irked that I keep hearing Square is trying to turn the Zeris relationship into more than young love, which I posted a little more about in another thread. |
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| Shiva | Sep 1 2007, 07:48 PM Post #183 |
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Who is saying that? True Serenity: I LOVE your sig! |
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| Zee | Sep 1 2007, 08:30 PM Post #184 |
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I love Zack/Aeris, but dear god. I'm going to jam a PSP through my neck after it comes out, I just know it. I mean seriously, does Aeris have to kick Zack in the nads for people to get the freakin' point? |
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| Kuraudo | Sep 1 2007, 09:00 PM Post #185 |
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Idiots at another forum I visit. <_< Don't worry. it's just me being the pessimist. I've heard others saying it and think, 'Is Square really trying to endorse Zeris that much? Especially when there's virtually nothing to support it?' But it's okay, since I've mainly heard rabids saying this. :) EDIT: Holy carp, TS Your sig is awesomness! |
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| Shiva | Sep 5 2007, 03:19 PM Post #186 |
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Well, of course S-E is going to endorse Zeris in a game about the past. There was plenty to support Zeris in the past. But, as for the present and future? S-E has made it plenty clear that it ain't gonna happen. |
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| Alantie | Sep 5 2007, 07:09 PM Post #187 |
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Completely agree with you FF_Goddess. No matter how much they endorse Zeris in CC, it's about the past, plain and simple. It's what comes after in FFVII, AC, and MotP, that shows that yes, Zack and Aerith had a sweet little romance or whatever, but it was a first love/crush and it's over. Finito. Finished. I always got the feeling that Zack and Aerith were more friends than lovers anyway, and they continue to remain close in death. Aerith loves Cloud much more than Zack. Seriously, she says this herself in MotP (which everyone seems to forget about). How much clearer can Aerith get about her feelings?
LMAO!!! I'm afraid so, Zelda. Since you know, Aerith flat out saying isn't good enough for anyone.Also, in regards to Zack and Aerith walking through that door together. . . Zack wasn't there for Aerith, he was there to see Cloud. Aerith and Zack are two of the people Cloud was closest to, he lost them both tragically, and has guilt over both of their deaths. So, they were both there to help Cloud get over that, NOT because OMG THER SOOO IN LUUUVVVV!!! Is there a thread somewhere to debate this whole Zeris vs Clerith thing? Since this is technically the Anti Cloti club. . . I'd like to continue this though, since I run into Zeris shippers all the time.
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| Rogue Galaxy | Oct 13 2007, 04:02 PM Post #188 |
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I guess I'll join this club. : / I used to tolerate clotif but now I'm afraid I'm loosing my patience for it. It just seems that everyone is crazy for it these days and i just don't dig it. |
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| DivineRose | Oct 13 2007, 05:29 PM Post #189 |
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I'll definitely join this. I love Tifa to bits, but a lot of the fans for this pairing make me feel bad for her. I really think I've never run into a non-rabid CloTi before. The closest I've gotten is one of my friends who is staying neutral because she can see my points on the pink side, but can't get over the fact that Aerith's dead. I'm so fed up with that excuse, I seriously told her to shut up. xD
I agree with you there. I'm probably going to have a harder time because I was into Cloud/Aerith before I played FFVII because of KH, so I never got into the whole Zeris thing. |
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| Hades' Daughter | Oct 13 2007, 07:41 PM Post #190 |
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Hogawds...I was drinking milk when I read this and it sprayed all over my monitor. Poor Zack, that image just won't leave my mind.
It was stated as clear as day in MoTP that Zack is "now a dear friend" to Aerith. Just like the line about Aerith loving Cloud more than Zack, this line is being ignored completely by the other side. Selective reading...ugh...why must thou exist!
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| Zee | Oct 13 2007, 07:54 PM Post #191 |
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XDDD @Zeris: DUDE. Okay, although I don't believe Aeris was totally in denial over Zack's death, if people feel that way I've seen some decent arguments to that case. However, she comes to terms with this on the date, clearly laying out the fact that while for a little bit she missed Zack, but wanted CLOUD AND NOT A ZACK DOUBLE. And then this is reinforced in MotP, where her romantic attentions are all turned to Cloud, and she treats Zack as a dear friend but nothing more. Christ, these people really just want to believe they know the characters better than the people who actually are writing the canon. |
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| aeris15 | Nov 17 2007, 09:03 AM Post #192 |
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I hate Zeris people and Cloti people. Right now I love Zati (ZackXTifa) and Clerith (CloudXAeris) |
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| Kit | Nov 17 2007, 09:27 PM Post #193 |
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Hey! I like zeris! Don't hate me!
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| Sora G. Strife | Nov 22 2007, 11:24 AM Post #194 |
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Translation: Sora G. Sutoraifu
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Count me in. However, I also hate Tifa, as well as the pairing. |
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| Angelwing Aeris | Nov 22 2007, 08:44 PM Post #195 |
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Clerith is eternal love
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Sign me up. I am quite fed up with Cloti and Zeris arguments. For one I hate it how younger Clotis make it out to be eternal love and of course support Zeris to get Aerith out of the way. I can not name the verious losers I've met in different forums (especially the ones on Strifeheart are the most rabid) that claim that Cloti is "eternal" I guess then that Quall (or Squistis) is eternal too (they were childhood friends too yah) .Seriously through, I find it strange that younger Clotis try to tell us what love is when they have never experienced it themselves. Ask them in 10 years if they marry their "first love" if so then they are genuine Clotis and I'll respect them. FF_G's website is so correct on the LTD although I don't have the same opinion of Clotis that she does although I haven't been on the fandom as long as she, but I'm sick of their flaming, whining side that has no evidence to support them. We however do. The thing that annoys me the most is when they try to say that the entire Compilation of FF7 is Cloti and Zeris. Well it is true that most of it is, but the Compilation is also mostly in the past. However most Clotis brush off this fact and try to forget it. They only want what is best for Tifa and not Cloud (since Tifa loved him she should have him regardless of the fact that Cloud doesn't love her anymore and loves Aerith and wants to go to the Promised Land to be with another woman (Aerith). Then I guess that must be love. Right? Clotis need to look at FF7 and beyond to tell whether Cloud loves Tifa since we all agree that Cloud loved Tifa in the past. When we look at FF7, AC and DoC we see that Cloud doesn't love Tifa romantically and hasn't for 7 years. No man who ever loved a woman, would be as cold as he is to Tifa. Cloud doesn't love her period except as a platonic friend and sister and she in turn mothers him in CoT. In AC she loses her influence over him to Aerith and he ignores her pleas to be a "family" because he loves Aerith. Just screams Cloti me thinks? Here is where the evidence points: Where Cloud is Aerith is and Tifa is always running after Cloud but won't reach him. |
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I'm afraid so, Zelda. Since you know, Aerith flat out saying isn't good enough for anyone.
I'd like to continue this though, since I run into Zeris shippers all the time.


12:29 AM Jul 11