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When Do You Think Cloud And Aerith; First fell in love
Topic Started: Feb 6 2005, 06:10 PM (963 Views)
UsagiMamoru
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Here's where you get to tell when you think Cloud and Aeris first realized they loved each other. For Cloud, I think Cloud first realized how strong his feelings for Aeris were when he found out that she was kidnapped by the Shinra. He didn't realize he loved her yet, he was starting to realize his feelings were much deeper then a normal friendship, and stronger then a crush. When Barret was mentioning it to him, he got embarassed when it was brought up a few times. At Cosmo Canyon his feelings got stronger and throughout each part he began to realize how strong his feelings for her were. I think he first realized he was in love with her when she died. Her death made him realize the feelings that were inside him all along. He first admitted to himself and accepted his feelings during his speech when Bugenhagen showed him her death again. The Japanese version hints to it a lot with:

"Aerith... I'm sorry. I should have noticed! ... You left us so soon and I panicked...I didn't think and that's why I didn't notice... but it's too late now to tell you. Aerith...now I understand. Don't worry, I'll do the rest."

The English version takes out the "But now it's too late to tell you", but it seems like he's realized and come to terms with his feelings right then.

For Aerith, I think she first realized her feelings for Cloud were stronger during the playground scene and when he saved her at the Shinra building is when she realized that her feelings were deeper then just a crush. I think Aeris fell in love with Cloud over the course of their time together, if you get the date with her, I think that's when it openly shows Aeris realizing she's fallen in love with him. So we know it is around the time they entered the Gold Saucer that she's realized that these feelings are love. So, what do you think?
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For Cloud, I think Cloud first realized how strong his feelings for Aeris were when he found out that she was kidnapped by the Shinra. He didn't realize he loved her yet, he was starting to realize his feelings were much deeper then a normal friendship, and stronger then a crush. When Barret was mentioning it to him, he got embarassed when it was brought up a few times. At Cosmo Canyon his feelings got stronger and throughout each part he began to realize how strong his feelings for her were. I think he first realized he was in love with her when she died. Her death made him realize the feelings that were inside him all along.

I think he already knew he loved her...Maybe, after that kidnapping thing, he only thought it was a crush, a silly feeling like the one he used to feel for Tifa when a kid, but realized soon after that it was more than that, like at the date in Gold Saucer. When she disappeared, he knew he couldn't lose her, let her go....But that stupid m@th&r f#$%&r had to ruin it all!!! NOOOO noo nooo nnnnooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!! *wails*

Hum...But then again, it could have been love at first site!! :P
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Hyper-Ballad
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Ooh, an interesting question, UsagiMamoru! :D

It's kind-of difficult to say...I don't think it was a case of love at first sight, and I personally believe that love is such a deep, affective and complex emotion that it takes a lot of time to develop and blossom fully.

I think that for the most part of the game what Cloud and Aeris have isn't exactly love, but it's not friendship either. It's...something. I think they were both instantly attracted to each other (although I think Aeris was far more aware of this than Cloud) and formed a very strong and close bond very quickly. Aeris instantly affects Cloud, and he warms up to her and comes to care about her even after knowing her for a relatively short time. Even after knowing her for only about two days, Cloud cares enough for her to risk his life rescuing her from Shinra, and while I think it's a long way from "love" at this point, it's still something.

That's part of what made their relationship stand out for me: the fact that there is a bond between them throughout the game, a kind of special-ness to their relationship that neither of them share with anyone else; a very unique closeness and understanding and more than that - a wanting to get to know each other better.

I think that Aeris was very aware of and in-touch with her own feelings, and that through all the time that they're together, she's falling in love with him and recognizes this. Aeris' feelings are generally much easier to interrpret - at first she's attracted to his resemblance to Zack, but (being the insightful gal that she is) she pretty quickly realizes that they're nothing alike, and spends her time searching for the real Cloud, wanting to get to know him better and help him, and comes to genuinely love him for himself along the way... :wub:

And while I think that Cloud felt just as strongly towards her; he's much less able to recognise, understand or express those feelings. During the game, he goes through a lot of confusion (plus the blindly obvious stuff like the Love Triangle tends to go straight over his head), and I doubt that romance was on his mind all that much as he's so fixed on his quest for finding Sephiroth and having revenge. For this reason, I think Aeris managed to catch him off-guard a lot of the time, that he felt things for her he wasn't ready for, or expecting to feel at all, so it bewildered him but affected him nonetheless and stayed with him even after her death.

For most of the first disk, I saw Cloud and Aeris as very good and close friends with that element of possibility laced in with it as well. They got on fabulously, looked out for each other, and there was a lot of attraction, chemistry and flirtation there as well. And from what we see at Gongaga, Cloud clearly doesn't like seeing her upset or hurt (aww!).

But for me, things really started developing for the two of them at Cosmo Canyon. The warmth Cloud shows whem he accidentally lets that "But I'm..." slip is lovely. I think from this point onwards things are really clicking between them and Cloud's becoming more and more aware of how special she is, while Aeris has realised that things are different, that her feelings are for Cloud, not the shadow of Zack. And I picked up on a lot of warmth on their date (he actually responds to what she's saying, even if it is with mostly confusion), and they seem very close during their time together at the Temple of the Ancients. During Cloud's dream, I think that he still isn't aware of what exactly he feels or what it means, but he still feels them strongly all the same. I love the moment when he tries to run after her (so sweet, so sad); it shows so strongly a longing to be with her, for her not to leave. Despite not being certain what his feelings are or what they mean exactly, I feel that he's still very sure of them at the same time. He doesn't understand them, just feels them.

His reaction to Aeris' death just tore me apart. I hadn't known it was going to happen and seeing the grief and loss Cloud felt was heart-wrenching. This was when it really hit me that he loved her - I'd believed so earlier, but the death scene got a really strong reaction of: "Oh God...he really does love her...". That was when it really hit me, and I know I may be projecting a bit here, but I think that it was when it hit him too. I mean, the things he says...they get me every time.

I'm not sure that the actual words "I love her" ever formed in his head, but to me, I think her death was when he realised how important Aeris was to him and how much he cared about her. And I also think that he realised that things would never be the same again after that, that he'd never be the same, that revenge on Sephiroth wouldn't make everything alright again, that taking Sephiroth's life wouldn't be enough to take back all the suffering and pain. He keeps moving despite his grief, but he's still changed by the loss.

And the hand reach scene...I think that shows real realisation of wanting to be with her. She's reaching for him, and he's reaching back for her and smiling. That says a lot to me.

Even if their developing love was cut short, and Cloud was never emotionally aware enough to understand or express what he felt to her while she was alive, I strongly believe that his feelings for her have left a mark on his heart and soul that will never go away. Even if he was to get together with Tifa, Yuffie, Elena or a random Costa del Sol babe, I don't think his feelings will ever disappear, fade or stop affecting him just as profoundly. And I think he's aware of that, too. She'll never stop affecting him.

Sigh...I feel sad now, having written that. Perhaps I ought to write another fanfic to get this romance off this mind for a while... I love these two so much! :wub:
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Daga15
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i think he first knew he loved her in the sleeping forest...when se run away....and in her death, because he says:

what will happen with us? ( clotis say that he ir refering to the team, but not)
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Oceania
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I honestly I don't think they "fell in love" I think they were in the process of falling in love but as we all know that was cut short. When Cloud lost Aeris that's the point were Cloud I think realizes his feelings for her but it was too late. :(
Or is it? I like to believe at the end they finally met in the promise land but of course Advent Children is coming out and they might say otherwise!
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Well, there's a difference between when they "fell in love" and when they "realized that s/he loved him/her", because, in my eyes, Cloud didn't realize until she died (sometimes, I even doubt he realized about that, but that's beyond the question). Cloud has never thought about the impact Aerith has made in his life until she wasn't there anymore.

In the other side, I would say the date was the scene where Aerith realized that Cloud and Zack were different, thus, her affection was for Cloud, not for the "Zack behind Cloud". She left some hints in Gongaga, but it wasn't convincing enough to me.

About "falling in love", sometimes I doubt they really fell in love, because their relationship was cut while their relationship was growing up, so it's hard to tell where this could become if Aerith hadn't died. But htey surely exchanged some affection that's hardly is just friendship, but still, not complete.
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I'd say either at the Church or the Sleeping Forest.

But I'm leaning towards Sleeping Forest. Because you all know how the old saying goes.

"You don't know what you got till you lose it." :(
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Enima
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If you ask me, I think he began to realise that he was falling for her when they were at her house as I think he blushed when Aerith asked him," Oh, is Tifa your girlfriend?". I remember that when I chose the "No way" answer he was shaking his head madly.
To me, he only realised that he was in love (but didn't want to admit it) with her when he needed to rescue her from the Shinra. Besides that, it deepened further when they were in Gongaga, Cosmo Canyon and during the date scene in Gold Saucer ( if yougot to date her).

But like Lady Anime quoted
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"You don't know what you got till you lose it." 

He realised that he was really in love when Aerith disappeared into the Forgotten City and when she was killed by Sephiroth.


As for Aerith, I think she started having a crush on him when he rescued her from the Turks and later on it deepend when they reached Gongaga. It was sort of obvious that she was in love with him when the went on a date in the Gold Saucer and at the Temple of the Ancients.

Well that's my view :) :D but unless I may have missed something I will update it :P .
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It's hard to say exactly at what point I felt that Cloud was in love with Aerith, but I do know that I thought he was in love with her before she died. I wasn't expecting Aerith to die in the Forgotten City, and I clearly remember thinking that Cloud would tell her that he loved her when he found her in the Forgotten City. When Cloud waved the others away and started up the stone steps toward Aerith, I fully expected Cloud to tell Aerith that he loved her when he got to her.

I know I felt that something was going on between them already when he went to rescue her in the Shinra building. I felt that the mutual attraction was quite obvious. There were hints of it in the playground scene before Wall Market when Cloud asked Aerith if she had been serious about Zack. I thought he said that in a way that sounded rather jealous. ;) Tifa got jealous of the way Cloud treated Aerith as they rescued her in the Shinra building as well as in jail - so once again, I felt there was indication of their mutual attraction at that time.

You have to remember that the time span between their first meeting in the Church and the time of her death is indefinite. They spent time together in Midgar before travelling to Kalm, then to the Mithril Mine, Junon, Costa del Sol, North Corel, the Gold Saucer, the prison, Gongaga, Cosmo Canyon, Nibelheim, Rocket Town, Wutai, back to the Gold Saucer, and then to the Temple of Ancients. In real time, that may easily have taken them three months or more. If you're with someone day in and day out for that length of time, it would be easy to fall in love. Many a couple has fallen in love with one another during the summer. The movie Dirty Dancing all took place over a summer, for example, and the main characters were clearly in love with one another.

I saw hints of mutual affection in the Church, the playground, in Wall Market, in the Shinra building, as sector Seven was destroyed, at Elmyra's house, in Gongaga, in Cosmo Canyon, and on the Date with Aerith. I felt that something was clearly going on between them, but the Sleeping Forest sequence showed it clearly for me when Cloud tried to run after Aerith. That told me that Cloud wanted to be with her.

I felt that Cloud's affection for Aerith was also clearly shown when he woke up in the middle of the night in the Forgotten City, saying that Aerith was there. When asked how he knew, Cloud said, "I feel it in my soul". That, to me, was a clear indication of Cloud's love for Aerith before her death.

As for Aerith, I felt that she made her feelings clear when she said, "I want to meet... you" during the Date sequence. When she said it, I thought to myself, "Heh... I guess that was a bad translation, coz it's pretty obvious what she really meant". :lol: (I was rather flabbergasted when I first heard someone say they thought it meant that she wanted to meet the real Cloud. That had never even occurred to me.) I also thought that Aerith made her feelings clear when she asked Cait Sith in the Temple of Ancients to tell about their compatibility. When Cait Sith answered that he would "be their preacher", suggesting that they should be married, that pretty much confirmed for me that they were in love with one another and destined to be married. :rolleyes: (Remember, I didn't know at that time that she would die.)
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Anti-R
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Haha! Mine's earlier...

I felt it all began when the two of them were sitting together on top of the concrete slide in the abandoned park on route to Wall Market...

Cloud asked a very personal question to her "Were you close?" it's kind of parallel to Aerith's "Is Tifa a girl friend?" back in the house. For some reason, I felt something clicked there.
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Lost Mercenary
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Welll after reading these posts I think what I have to say will just sound like an echo. But I'd have to agree mainly with Hyper-Ballard.

the same conclusions draw up in my brain too.
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Daga15
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i havent noticed but you are right!

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Cloud asked a very personal question to her "Were you close?" it's kind of parallel to Aerith's "Is Tifa a girl friend?" back in the house. For some reason, I felt something clicked there
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aeris ask cloud if tifa is his girlfriend because she is worried...

and then cloud ask aeris if zack and her were serious...

good point!! :lol:
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slowerthanaverage
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I agree with Anti-R in the sense that in the playground scene, Cloud had already shown strong interest in Aerith.
Notice that Cloud had never bothered to ask people about their personal life before that? He waslike a lonewolf. He worked for money.
However, with Aerith, he actually managed to ask such a personal question, that says alot about his interest in the girl ^_^

However, I would think he really fell in love with her during the course of the game when they travelled together from towns to towns. Like HB said, at Cosmo Canyon, Cloud made a beautiful slip. At that point in time, I think that at that point Cloud was romantically interested in Aerith, and if given the chance, he would pursue such a relationship with her.
At the forgotten forest and Aerith's death scene, it is when we truly know that Aerith is the most important thing to Cloud. Not his revenge, not anyone else, but Aerith.
This is what Clotis usually say, "we know that Aerith is important to Cloud, but in what way - might not be in a romantic sense."

Mind you, you can say you love your girlfriend, but she might still not be the most important thing in your life right? So I find the fact that Aerith shown to be the most important thing to CLoud, much more significant than whether Cloud said "I love you" to her or not ^_^ :cleris:
Just my 2 cents worth ;)
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Hades' Daughter
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Hrmms...my turn, right?

Well, honestly...it's rather hard to figure out exactly when they first fall in love. As I saw it, they pretty much showed feelings to one another throughout the game while she was still alive. Their attraction and affections for one another were quite evident...even as early on as the church scene where Cloud fell on top of her flower bed.

On the other hand, I felt that Cloud had probably first realized his love for her during the campfire scene where he almost made that slip-of-the-tongue. Then during the forest scene, it just proved both his and her love further when they were portrayed sharing that bond, giving them that ability to communicate with one another through the simple dream. His reactions to her leaving said just as much. During that scene also, Aerith said something like: "l'll come back when it's all over...". By this time, I believe she had already realized how important/special Cloud is to her, and that if she could, she would come back.

To me, Cloud's reactions to her death had been something like him regretting that he couldn't save her, and that he never got the chance to tell her that he loves her...just because as Tipsy's pointed out, he says here that she matters more to him than anything else, even the Planet.
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when cloud fell in the flowers. just think-you can hear voices and then you regain conciousness. you see a flippin gorgeous woman leaning over you looking into your eyes with her green eyes(by the way, im a girl, so im not bent or anything :ermm: ). who could resist? and he jumped up out of the flower bed, and went nervous and apologized. he mustve found her cute. at least, thats when i reckon they feel in love! :cleris:
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