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Is Cloudxaerith Unrealistic?; In AC
Topic Started: Feb 3 2005, 01:57 AM (1,379 Views)
Anastar
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Cloti's are claiming that CloudxTifa will probably happen at the end of AC because it's more realistic. They say that Aerith will never be resurrected in AC because it's too unrealistic and cheesy. They go on to say that since Aerith won't be resurrected, there's no chance of CloudxAerith happening in AC.

What they're overlooking is that Aerith doesn't need to be resurrected for CloudxAerith to happen in AC. For one thing, Cloud happens to be dying of Geostigma. What if he dies? CloudxAerith is a very likely conclusion if Cloud dies at the end of AC.

CloudxAerith could also happen if Cloud meets Aerith during AC, and the possibility of that happening is also pretty high. Since Cloud meeting Aerith was one of the unresolved mysteries of FFVII, Square might very well decide to show us how Cloud would meet Aerith in AC. It would be a perfect time for Square to show us that.

Cloud dying and/or meeting Aerith are two ways of CloudxAerith happening in AC without Aerith being resurrected, and both ways are very realistic within the realm of FFVII. We know that Square isn't afraid of killing their leading characters, and they may see it as a suitable way to conclude Cloud's story. Cloud's death wouldn't keep Square from including Cloud in other games, since we've seen a number of characters who died in subsequent games by Square. It would also be about the only way they could rival the impact of Aerith's death in FFVII. Cloud may very well die in AC.

The argument that CloudxTifa is more likely to happen because it's more realistic is rather silly, if you ask me. The Cloti's who say that are just ignoring the fact that Cloud might very well die in AC. They also don't realize that Aerith doesn't need to be resurrected for CloudxAerith to happen in AC - there's other ways for CloudxAerith to happen.
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Sefie
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Umm, that's rather ridiculous. They're wanting something that takes place in FFVII to be "Realistic"? Is this the same game where a planet can be summoned using a magical marble? And the same world where people turn into green dots of spirit energy? Isn't FFVII the one where lions talk, an ancient race can talk to dead people and there's magic?
I'm sorry, but if FFVII is one thing, it is NOT realistic!
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Lady Anime
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What Sefie said.

*Rant Start*

Also I just need to say this, if Aeris was revived, I'm not saying she will, why do some people that it will be cheesy ? <_< If pulled off the right way Aeris getting resurected would be just as emotional as her death.

*Rant over*
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Anastar
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Lady Anime
Feb 3 2005, 02:31 AM
*Rant Start*

Also I just need to say this, if Aeris was revived, I'm not saying she will, why do some people that it will be cheesy ?  <_< If pulled off the right way Aeris getting resurected would be just as emotional as her death.

*Rant over*

I agree... I don't think that Aerith's resurrection has to be cheesy at all. It all depends on the way Square resurrects her. I don't know how people can decide that it's cheesy before it even happens. <_< Wait to see how Square does it first, and then decide whether it was cheesy or not.

And no, that's not to say that she will get resurrected. I'm just saying that I think it's silly to decide that's something's cheesy before it even happens.
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Buhon
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I'm gonna agree with everyone here. If done well, ressurecting Aeris could be a very compelling story


Sefie
 
  They're wanting something that takes place in FFVII to be "Realistic"? Is this the same game where a planet can be summoned using a magical marble? And the same world where people turn into green dots of spirit energy? Isn't FFVII the one where lions talk, an ancient race can talk to dead people and there's magic?
I'm sorry, but if FFVII is one thing, it is NOT realistic!


Couldn't have said it better myself Sefie!
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Tifa Lockheart
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The only unrealistic thing in what those Cloti had just mentioned is their idea that they think it's unrealistic. First of all, why do some people always have to point out that Aerith will be revived? It just starts further arguments. I deem that it doesn't matter whether she'll be revived or not as long as Cloud can join her or be with her, right? I mean, he could just die so that he could be with her and join her wherever she is! :(

Going to their relationship being "unrealistic", well, NO. It's not unrealistic. Love can get busted by sudden interruptions like a sudden death or they cannot be together because of a bad circumstance whatsoever. It's reality; it can happen in real life... :(
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Carmencita
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Unrealistic... Unrealistic?!?!?!?! :angry:

Let me show you what's "unrealistic"--expecting Cloud/Tifa to happen *just because* Aerith is gone. "Suicidal Cloud running to the loving arms of Tifa for comfort" is not realistic, in my opinion. Tifa making a move on Cloud after Aerith's death is questionable.

And besides, like everybody else has mentioned, a romance between Cloud and Aerith isn't necessarily unrealistic.

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Enima
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*sigh* I don't get it. Just because Aerith passed away, the Clotis still think that love still cannot live on beyond life*gets a headache* .

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I agree... I don't think that Aerith's resurrection has to be cheesy at all. It all depends on the way Square resurrects her. I don't know how people can decide that it's cheesy before it even happens.  Wait to see how Square does it first, and then decide whether it was cheesy or not.


That's a good point. Some either think it's cliche/ common/ (as I usually say in Malay) 'Terlalu biasa' (means common) or they just think it's silly and impossible.
Man, some people either just don't want to use their imagination or think it's not logical.

No one knows how it /anything will turn out unless you try first. :ph43r:

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The only unrealistic thing in what those Cloti had just mentioned is their idea that they think it's unrealistic. First of all, why do some people always have to point out that Aerith will be revived? It just starts further arguments. I deem that it doesn't matter whether she'll be revived or not as long as Cloud can join her or be with her, right? I mean, he could just die so that he could be with her and join her wherever she is! 

Going to their relationship being "unrealistic", well, NO. It's not unrealistic. Love can get busted by sudden interruptions like a sudden death or they cannot be together because of a bad circumstance whatsoever. It's reality; it can happen in real life... 


That's so true. But does it say that Aerith will be revived? About they're relationship, I think that no matter what happens, they'll be together either way, whether Cloud dies or Aerith gets revived. :ph43r:
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Feb 3 2005, 05:37 AM
I deem that it doesn't matter whether she'll be revived or not as long as Cloud can join her or be with her, right? I mean, he could just die so that he could be with her and join her wherever she is!  :(

Exactly, Tifa... The Cloti's just seem to ignore the fact that Cloud has a fatal disease and may very well die during the movie. They seem to think that the only way CloudxAerith can happen in AC is if Aerith gets revived. Square has written the movie so that there's a realistic and very possible chance of Cloud reuniting with Aerith when he dies. However, Cloud doesn't need to die for CloudxAerith to be confirmed, either. A kissing scene in the flower field is also totally possible.

Zhakeena
 
Let me show you what's "unrealistic"--expecting Cloud/Tifa to happen *just because* Aerith is gone.

Well said, Zhakeena. I couldn't agree with you more. :rolleyes:
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Aerith_kun
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I agree with all of you ^____^...

I have discussed this theme before with some Clotis, and it seems that they don´t hear ¬¬... Only because a beloved person dies doesn´t mean that the other has to move on with his/her best friend... or with another person ¬¬

And yeah, I see improbable that SE resurrect Aeris (although it´s possible...), but Cloud dying is a very probably option... In my opinion the most probable to the moment...

Like Tifa said, ilogicall woul be Cloud running to Tifa´s arms because Aeris is death ¬¬... Cloud ending with Tifa is improbable, too, because AC is a 90 mins film, and the argument have a lot of things to tell us (Kaddaj and the other 2, Jenova, Sephiroth, Marlene and the other childs, Aeris....) as for the movie turning around Cloud and Tifa relationship ¬¬... Well, it´s only my opinion ^^UU
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Velvy
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I don't think Cloud x Aeris is unrealistic. If anything I think what's being overlooked is how unrealistic Cloud x Tifa is. Cloud x Aeris can more or less be established based on Cloud's feelings. Guilt so far is the only clear emotion, but it would be easy to transition that to feelings of love also. Considering the following

--We are still not 100% clear if Cloud and Tifa lived together, how long they lived together, how close they were during that time, and it's pretty darn unlikely they slept in the same bedroom.

--Cloud currently doesn't consistently keep in contact with her. If he *has* feelings for her, it's a bit ridiculous how much he has retracted himself from her based purely on feelings of *guilt* for Aeris. He's willing to let Geostigma kill him, which means Tifa isn't enough to motivate him to fight it.

--People can spout all they want about the non-importance of side-games, but for the sake of what S-E would do, they should be taken into account. After all, I know quite a few people who assume from KH (and who haven't played FFVII) that Cloud and Aeris are a couple. They've been propagandizing them for too long, it would be a rather 180 to switch so suddenly to Cloud and Tifa.

--In the span of over 90 minutes, I am expected to believe that Cloud fights Geostigma, forgets Aeris, and decides to start over with Tifa?? Man! They're gonna have to do a hell of a good job to get me to believe that. It to me is on par to an Aeris ressurection. Has to be done well otherwise it will just not be believeable to me. I am of the opinion that Cloud and Tifa were never established in the game, and since I don't believe in them as a couple, it will come right out of left field.

So there are a lot of factors against Cloud and Tifa as well. It's easy to put them together, but is it easy to accomplish that well? To switch to Cloud and Tifa would mean *closing* Cloud and Aeris's relationship, and they have so far, not done that yet. I truly wonder if they will...
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I agree with what everyone else says. :P B) :P

Clorith, cheap and unrealistic....meh, whatever. And I suppose that many Clotis are forgetting the fact that this is a game and that in the world of FINAL FANTASY there are secrets, monsters, summoning and magic. Sure, that is really realistic.
Its like saying, there are no such people in this world who continues to love their love ones who passed away and believe in meeting them again. So, is that like saying they're losers and lost in their delusions? Because that is just so wrong and I believe that love can find a way after death. Death can't tear two lovers apart when their bond ties them together. Many cultures and people do believe in it. :P
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Seii Monogatari
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I don't think it would be unrealistic at all. Cloud has not so much as smiled once at Tifa, or said anything happy. He didn't tell her or anyone else when he ran off, and Tifa just let him go. The only people Cloud can really talk openly about his emotions with are Vincent and Aeris. Vincent, because he can relate to him, and Aeris, because ... well, he could always talk to her, she is the one who opened him up. It's Aeris's voice that truly gives him the will to fight on.

Back to the point (I went on a Cleris tangent), Cloud spoke to Tifa, yes, but talking to her =/= love. The closest he got to her was carried her beaten body to safety, and then talking about Aeris as she recovered. He's obviously unaware of her feelings (assuming she still has them for him), and doesn't seem to care whether she has any or not. To go from this state that he's in --which we know must last AT LEAST a third of the way into the movie-- actually leaves less than an hour to create the bud of a beautiful, healthy relationship. When you factor in all the fight sequences etc ... not so realstic after all, is it?

Then there's the Cleris factor. Cloud has Geostigma, a deadly disease that is slowly killing him. He is dying already. He wants to meet and be with Aeris, so this would seem to be the logical path, since he's already heading down that road.

Cloud could also find a way to meet Aeris, like he promised he would at the end of Final Fantasy VII. I particularly like Aly's kissing idea ... I can't get the mental image out of my head! It may not be likely, but here's for wishing!! :D

Aeris could be resurrected as well. I've heard Clotis yapping about so-and-so (it changes every time I hear it) saying that bringing Aeris back would be out of the question. I don't know whether this is true or not, it very well may be, but I've been given no links or proof of any kind, so as of now I'm going to dismiss the statement. :rolleyes:

I've been wondering whether maybe she'll come back for a short period of time, during the fighting or something. I'm not sure, it's just speculation, but it seems plausible. Maybe when she left she could take Cloud with her? :unsure: Ugh, just a theory ...
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Anastar
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Very good thoughts, everyone! I completely agree. :rolleyes:

Velvy
Feb 4 2005, 10:22 AM
--We are still not 100% clear if Cloud and Tifa lived together, how long they lived together, how close they were during that time, and it's pretty darn unlikely they slept in the same bedroom.

In Nomura's last article on the Shinra website, he also stated that scenes had been revised. For all we know, those insinuations that Cloud may have been living with Tifa have been taken out or revised.

Seii Monogatari
 
He's obviously unaware of her feelings (assuming she still has them for him), and doesn't seem to care whether she has any or not.

I've heard Cloti's say things like, "if Tifa would only tell Cloud how she feels". The thing is, Tifa has told Cloud how she feels. She tells him under the Highwind, regardless of which version of the scene you get.
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Well, one reason why I play FF is BECAUSE it's unrealistic. The Fantasy part in the title should be a big clue, as to: this game is a fantasy. It's a break from all the real crap going on around you.
Anyway, to say Aeris being resurrected is unrealistic clashes with the whole fantasy part of the game, or how often do the CloTis see a blonde hunk walking down the street with a big ass sword? :lol:
If Cloud dies, it would be both beautiful and tragic, but as long as he's with Aeris where he belongs, I'll be happy.
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