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" I Decided To Live For Your Sake..."; We forgot this line...
Topic Started: Nov 28 2004, 05:47 AM (3,034 Views)
Sefie
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The thing is, he thrusts his sword into the ground. That's a sign of respect(or something like that) for a fallen commrade/soldier in Japan. And it IS Zack's sword...But the flowers.....maybe it IS about both of them. It'd make sense*shrug*
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Enima
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Hmm... to me, during that scene he was referring to Zack as he did thrust Zack's sword at his grave which was overlooking Midgar, but I wasn't really sure about the 'however..." bit.

Maybe it's like Marionette said, he must live his own life and not Zacks. But then again it may not. Maybe it does refer to Aerith as well as Zack. We really won't know till later.
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Cloud puts his sword into the ground, in asian culture that usually means like the grave of a solider or like representing something like that , Zack was a solider, well i guess Aeris could of been a solider too.. OH yeah and about the flower thing, everyone usually has flowers on their grave, so it could be Zack .. or Aeris... IM just pointing this out im not siding which one is right because im not sure either.
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Daga15
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i think cloud is talking about aeris....i imagie when ff7 was over, cloud took his swords and returned to the place where zack has died..remeber this is the place where cloud tooks the sword, because it was zack swords, not cloud swords. i think he is sealing his past,..and the, whe see in advent children cloud go to the place , took the sword from the ground and fix it...because he is gonig to fight, once more...what do you think?
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Daga15
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i was wrong: what he see in this scene in no Midgar, is Junon. why?
firts of all midgar is not early the see, remember? junon is
the canion...junon has a canion
look at it wery wel and you will see its junon, no midgar...so is talking to aeris...
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Roxas
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Daga: I'm not being rude, but if anything else comes to mind and no one has posted after you, edit your post instead of posting again! ^^;

The rule is posted here http://s8.invisionfree.com/Cloud_x_Aerith/...p?showtopic=171

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9. No double posting. Use the Edit button instead of double posting.




And I'm thinking Cloud will probably die from the geo. T_T At least if he does CloTis cannot say "THEY CAN STILL BE TOGETHER" because they claimed to be against CloRith because Cloud cannot be with someone who is dead, so Tifa cannot be with someone who's dead, "simple as" XD
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Sefie
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It's really looking like Cloud's gonna die
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Velut Luna
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oh yeah!!! i totally forgot what he says in that part :blink:
but im still wondering in what part of the movie does he say it? :blink:
begining/middle/end :huh:
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Kusari Yarou
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Sounds like ya all want him to die :D
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Aerith_kun
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"DeMoNīs DoNīt CrY"... by Anderson O_O
I thin it happens in the middle... Maybe after the fight versus Bahamut, when Cloud sees that he has to fight (looking at the trailers, figth with Bahamut seems the first time in the movie when Cloud starts to fight seriously...)...
And yeah, I think Cloud will die in AC... Well, at least I hope so ^^U
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Velut Luna
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well...hmm...oh know,if cloud were to die in the movie how would you like him to die (you know in what place)i was thinking about it it would be kinda sweet if he were to die in the flower-bed you know were aeris was always taking care of her flowers :o (wait why did i write this in the first place :huh: :blink: )*hits her head*
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Aerith_kun
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"DeMoNīs DoNīt CrY"... by Anderson O_O
The place?? ^^

Well, the flower field in the church would be nice :rolleyes: ... But I would see it more "tragic" if it was in the Temple of the Ancients or in the Forgotten City, just like Aeris died, it would be so beautiful and sad :rolleyes: :rolleyes: ...
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Nya
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I'll love to see Cloud die in a really painful way. Somethin' like he finishes of the badguy, the badguy's dying, then when Cloud and the rest thinks it's all over, the bad guy suddenly rushes up and kills Cloud, bad guy laughs while dying. But Cloud smiles sadly to the badguy's surprise. Cloud has this relieved look on his face that just touches you.. "thank you", oh so he says.

I'm quite the sadist hehe, but woudn't it all be beautiful? and worth it all? To have Cloud suffer so much in life, but in afterlife is where he FINALLY finds peace , which is with Aerith. And Tifa letting go of Cloud has gotta be a beautiful thing to see.
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Lost Mercenary
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It is a referal to Aeris that much is a dead cert. No pun intended. lol.

"I decided to live for your sake, however"
I don't think this is just reffering to the upcoming battle that is gonna take place. Remember he's infected with the non-curable Geostigma and the outcome is always fatal.

Cloud doesn't expect to survive whether he comes out of the battle victorious or not. He expects to die soon either way...

The fact that he doesn't seem bothered by it is upsetting though, since he can't think of a reason to fight on as best he can against the Geostigma. He intends to just let it kill him remember what Tifa says...

"No that's not it. He doesn't plan to fight at all..."
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Hades' Daughter
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It's true that in many asian cultures (mine as well), not just the Japanese, that what he does with his sword is a sign of honor and respect toward the dead. From what he says during that scene though, I'm really leaning more towards the idea that he's referring to Aeris, so I agree with Lost Mercenary.

This is just my prediction, but when he says "I decided to live for your sake, however" (I'd imagine that he's saying this line before the big fight...or else at the end of the movie), I think he's referring to the idea that although he could easily have just given up on life, he hasn't because of her. Maybe he wants to live so that he can keep her memories alive, even if he can't be with her physically? *shrugs*

No matter how much I want Aeris and Cloud reunited, I really don't think he's going to die. For one thing...I get this feeling that with that image they always show of Cloud putting his sunglasses on, it may be something at the very end of the movie. I kind of think that he's going to stay a lone wolf and not end up with Tifa at all (as I feel that she's close to him, but only due to the fact that she's such an understanding friend, nothing more). Here's how I picture it at the end: after the big fight, (having somehow healed himself of the geostigma) he puts his sunglasses on, gets on Fenrir and drives away looking very kool, mind you. At this point, he's gotten over his depression and has decided that Aeris isn't really dead as long as she lives on in his memories...a happy ending... B)

Maybe it's the best way Square can kind of stay neutral regarding the love triangle?
Let's just hope my predictions don't come true, otherwise, I've just spoiled the movie for everyone... :blush:
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