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| Reasons; Aerith is better for Cloud | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Nov 11 2004, 03:43 PM (3,667 Views) | |
| Anastar | Nov 11 2004, 03:43 PM Post #1 |
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To touch the light I see in your eyes...
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What are your reasons for thinking that Aerith is better for Cloud than Tifa? Why *don't* you want Tifa with Cloud? For me, Aerith seems to make Cloud happy. Cloud never shows happiness around Tifa. It always seemed to me that Tifa was asking Cloud for help, or whining about their past in Nibelheim, etc. Aerith showed interest in Cloud and wanted to have fun with him. They had adventures together and shared ideas with one another. Tifa's attitude seemed more like, "What should we do now, Cloud?!?" Cloud just seemed to enjoy himself with Aerith, whereas he always had to confront past and current problems with Tifa. With Tifa, it's always an "issue" that she wants Cloud to deal with. Tifa was always trying to delve into why Cloud was doing things, why didn't he remember, why is he giving the Black Materia to Sephiroth, etc., etc. Tifa continues doing that even now, in AC - why won't you fight, why are you lamenting, why aren't you listening to me, why are you running, etc. etc. Aerith would just smile, enjoy being with Cloud, offer him support and encouragement, and have a good time with him. I saw Tifa's relationship with Cloud as being tedious, boring, and filled with tension. Cloud and Aerith's relationship was interesting, exciting, and adventuresome. I also saw a lot of caring, devotion, and understanding between them. I saw no special chemistry between Cloud and Tifa, but I saw lots of special chemistry happening between Aerith and Cloud. I also don't think Cloud and Tifa look good together at all. Cloud's love for Aerith was very obvious to me, too. I didn't see Cloud showing ANY romantic interest toward Tifa, however. Tifa showed romantic interest in Cloud, but I didn't see Cloud reciprocating it. What are your reasons? |
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| Sefie | Nov 11 2004, 04:34 PM Post #2 |
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I've gotta admit, my main reason is how happy she makes him. She knows just what to say, and just how to say it to make him smile. She gets him to come out of his shell, and is the first character to actually understand him. She's likeable, casual, and fun and that's JUST what Cloud needs. |
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| Slayer | Nov 11 2004, 07:56 PM Post #3 |
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Just because they are perfect! I love them together but the main reason are 1.- Aerith makes a happy Cloud, The only time he laughed was with Aerith. 2.- Who better than a mother to know what kind of woman he son need!!! 3.- They understand each other, Cloud always felt he was different because nobody wants to plat with him (poor Cloud ) and Aerith is the only survivor of the Cetra, so she understand him very well4.- She is his light!!! 5.- The knew each other for a short time, but the chemistry betwwen them is like they were really childhood friends!! (oh the irony!) 6.- She know what to said when Cloud is miss 7.- He want to see her again!! And when he was "hugging" Tifa (take that clotis!!!) 8.- She WILL be ALWAYS in Cloud heart! 9.- Maybe the fate separeted them, but still they can be together! 10.- They are perfect together |
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| Kaldea | Nov 11 2004, 09:27 PM Post #4 |
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Cloud just needs someone optimistic (No Tifa is NOT optimistic regardless of what her character description says). Tifa has the type of personality where they would be both like, "Ok, so what do we do?" when it comes to a real relationship with them. Tifa needs someone to lean on and support her. Cloud can't offer that type of love. Aerith is perfect for Cloud simply because she is independant and she can lift Cloud's spirits where Tifa wouldn't know what to do to help him. |
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| Miss Yukari | Nov 11 2004, 11:22 PM Post #5 |
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I think the main reason that Aerith is better for Cloud than Tifa is because with Aerith, Cloud can be himself. He doesn't have to worry that he's not living up to her expectations. By not getting into SOLDIER, Cloud felt he let Tifa down, and throughout the game Tifa is always being disappointed by him. I think that their relationship would be really unhealthy - Cloud always felt that he couldn't live up to Tifa's expectations ("I could never live up to being Cloud...") and Tifa spent most of the game worrying herself to death about him, but not brave enough to tell him why she was worried. Tifa needs someone she can lean on, who she can rely on when things are difficult, someone who'll tell her things will be okay. Cloud needs someone strong emotionally, someone who's optimistic and will be able to stop him from becoming withdrawn and who he can depend on to cheer him up when things are difficult for him. See the problem with CloTi? Aerith is the one Cloud can rely on to cheer him up, someone he can be himself around and who doesn't place him on a pedastal like Tifa does. When Cloud tried to act the tough hero, Aerith wouldn't let him. She wouldn't let him make her go home, she outsmarted him when he tried to leave for Wall Market without her, she wouldn't allow him to treat her like a damsel in distress. She took charge during the Wall Market sidequest and bossed him around instead of letting him tell her what to do! :lol: Aerith is the only girl who got Cloud to open up and drop the tough facade for a while. That's why she's the best choice for him. |
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| Tifa Lockheart | Nov 23 2004, 10:24 AM Post #6 |
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Cloud and Aerith's love, for me, is the epitome of true love that is pure and simple yet lasts forever even after death. It's the kind of love I'm sure everybody dreams of... I do! ![]() Like what the others have mentioned, Cloud can be himself around Aerith. I don't approve of the idea of Cloud with Tifa because I think their relationship wouldn't work out between the two of them, considering their attitudes towards themselves and the others, and also looking at their zodiac signs. They wouldn't really be compatible perfectly in love but the relationship could work out as something like a fling or a one-night stand (oh my gawd... that would suck...)... but when it comes to Cloud and Aerith, it's perfect for love and in the bedroom (uhh... forgive me, I'm using astrology. <_< )... Eheh... Their love is like "Even after death" and not just like "'Til do us part". It's so... eternal... It's something really stronger than the "love" that I've seen in TidusxYuna and SquallxRinoa. Tifa's got a lot of issues that she cannot handle well and so they affect her in a way that she isn't even conscious of; while Aerith is someone who also has issues of her own, but she does not let them affect her and the way she deals with other people. Both are optimistic in a way, but Tifa's optimism is like being fake about her true self to others (ugh... I don't know how else to explain it...) while Aerith's optimism is something that comes from the heart and soul and not just hypocrisy or being fake about her true feelings. Cloud, I think, is a person who doesn't open up much to people unless they open up to him first and prove to him that he could trust them. In Tifa's case, if I was Cloud, why would I even trust that girl if she already lied to me about my past just so that she could get what she wants out of me? I would trust her again, but not the same way that I must've done before. And Tifa's another person who doesn't really open up too much to other people in terms of sharing her deepest emotions about another person. She couldn't even admit properly to Cloud that she liked him. Where would their relationship head to if they're both too quiet about their own feelings for each other, just in case they do get together?! It would go nowhere because nobody knows how to communicate with one another about their feelings; while I think that a good and lasting relationship should have a free-flowing relationship built on love, faith and trust between the two people involved in it. Going to Aerith, she is more open to people; not afraid to express what she feels and what she's thinking of. She's more expressive than Tifa too. That's the kind of person that Cloud needs to love him and for him to love. She can teach him how to open up without being to harsh on him or being too aggressive on it. Cloud can be himself around her. ^_^' |
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| Sefie | Nov 23 2004, 04:39 PM Post #7 |
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Actually, I think Tifa's optimizm is more of a coverup for others. She acts strong and happy for others, she smiles when she's sad so that others will be happy. It's part of her whole self-sacrificing character. |
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| Andina | Nov 23 2004, 06:45 PM Post #8 |
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~Absurd~
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Ahh, that was well said, Sefie-poo, you deserve a cookie. ![]() *feeds Sefie a cookie* Self-sacrificing is a good way to describe Tifa. It's a wonderful quality in a person, at least in my opinion but it's not the kind of quality Cloud's girlfriend should have. Cloud is self-sacrificing enough alone so he needs someone to be the voice of reason in that relationship, someone who helps him to keep his thoughts together and allows him to escape the cruel reality even if for a short while. And Aerith is perfect when it comes to those things, she can take care of Cloud mentally and well...physically too, of course. :rolleyes: |
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| slowerthanaverage | Nov 23 2004, 07:06 PM Post #9 |
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You have all expressed what i wanted to say.. heehee Key: Tifa is hiding behind a facade, like everyone else has said, she is trying to be optimistic when deep inside she is confused and scared...Cloud is too hiding behind a facade...mainly because he is confused with all the mind-playing tricks sephy played on him... However, tis only when Cloud is with Aerith, he seems to be able to put all that behind, to open up and laugh...Who, what, why are no longer important anymore... with Aerith, he is contented. |
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| Aeris | Nov 24 2004, 03:28 AM Post #10 |
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Aeris is good for Cloud, because of her personality. Cloud needs someone warm hearted, outgoing, and friendly, to bring him out. Aeris opened him up, and made him a little less afraid to express himself. Plus, it was obvious that Cloud cared deeply for Aeris, and the same for her, to Cloud. There are many hints that point toward them being the couple. Tifa isn't good for Cloud, for a few reasons. One, she's too shy. She wouldn't be of any social help to Cloud. Two, she is so afraid of her own feelings, others can get hurt. I mean, look what she did to Cloud! She led him to his doom, by keeping a secret from him. Three, I don't think she truely loves Cloud. Maybe they had a brother-sister type relationship, but never a true loving one. And last, Tifa is way to controlling. Like in the beginning, she wouldn't leave Cloud alone about their promise, and joining AVALANCHE. She stuck to him, and woulodn't let him go. This is bad on Cloud's part, because he could never experience things for himself. |
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| Enima | Nov 28 2004, 03:52 PM Post #11 |
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I can see what you guys mean. He does look happier and shows more emotions when he's with Aerith. Cloud's not afraid to express himself with her unlike when he's with Tifa. In fact, isn't Aerith the type of girl that his mother recommended him to be with, "You should have an older girlfriend, one that would take care of you." If she was alive and Cloud chose Aerith, his mother would be thrilled . Besides that, he looked really heartbroken when Sephiroth killed Aerith, more worried than when he 'saved' Tifa in Nibelheim mountains.
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| Tifa Lockheart | Nov 29 2004, 05:44 AM Post #12 |
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Oh yeah. And everytime Cloud is around Tifa, something "bad" always seems to happen to him that does not even make sense or doesn't even have a big or complete significance in his life (something that is worth living for)! First of all there's the time when he "saved" her from the Nibelheim mountains. And then the wheelchair incident... where he got flung off. And much, much more... Compared to cases wherein he's with Aerith, even if something bad happens to them or to him, or even when it leaves a bigger mess in his life (but I don't think it really happened that way), it still had a big significance in his existence... and it's something worth living for.
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| Skelly | Nov 30 2004, 01:11 PM Post #13 |
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MADAME BATOLLI!!! I praise your fanfictions! Nice to see you here!Hmmm... reasons why Aeris is meant for Cloud? Oh my... there are so many! I'll start of with some basic ones... A.) With Aeris, Cloud was always open. He always seemed to enjoy being with Aeris, and Aeris with him. Besides... here's this: "Besides... I'll... we'll be with you... right?" ~Cosmo Canyon, around the bonfire (It's not exactly word by word.) Does this not show us that Cloud will be with Aeris? He let's it slip and covers it with "we'll" be with you. Personally, this moment was very... nice to me. B.) Look at Aeris' name. 'Aeris' equals 'cloud' in Greek. Eris equals the goddess of strife and discord. Strife. Doesn't that ring bells? Cloud Strife. This info is not mine. I read it in a website dedicated to Cloud and Aeris - but I am not sure if it is truly correct. C.) Aeris was always an optimistic person. In the manual, it said Tifa was optimistic. Lots of things in the manual were wrong. Like, it said Cloud was a First-Class Soldier. But he wasn't. Tifa is not optimistic. She is not even open with things on her mind. If she told Cloud the truth, then he wouldn't carry a lie with him, thinking that it was true. Sure, he would feel like a failure, but it would prevent him giving the Black Materia to Sephiroth. Lots of things could be prevented if only Tifa told Cloud the truth. If Cloud and Tifa do have a romantic relationship, then it would fall apart. Cloud is not open with his emotions - and so is Tifa. They couldn't tell each other how they felt - other than "I love you". Eventually, one of them would get frustrated. <.< With Aeris, Cloud could learn how to be open. Tifa could never teach him that. Aeris was always an open person, if not just a bit stubborn. ![]() Well... those are my opinions. :ph43r: Now I pray that the Pink Haven of Cloud and Aeris will keep CloTis from reading my post. :ph43r: |
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| Anastar | Nov 30 2004, 03:10 PM Post #14 |
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To touch the light I see in your eyes...
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Great reasons, everyone!
I've never seen Tifa as being an optimistic person, either! See this thread on Tifa's character: http://s8.invisionfree.com/Cloud_x_Aerith/...p?showtopic=268
Well, we can't keep them from reading it, but we can prevent them from bashing it. ;) |
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| Beautiful Aeris | Dec 9 2004, 03:31 AM Post #15 |
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Why is Aeris better for Cloud? Because she drops it like it's hot. You have just received your first warning. Your posts will now be previewed beforehand by staff members. ~FF_G~ |
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) and Aerith is the only survivor of the Cetra, so she understand him very well


. Besides that, he looked really heartbroken when Sephiroth killed Aerith, more worried than when he 'saved' Tifa in Nibelheim mountains.
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