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| Cloud And Aeris Kiss; Do you think it will happen? | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Nov 4 2004, 03:34 PM (7,577 Views) | |
| Amathala | Dec 14 2007, 02:34 AM Post #121 |
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If it's such a bother to you about why it's three years old and still open, you shouldn't have bothered posting in the first place. In my opinion, not all relationships are like what you see on those shows. Not everyone is into that kind of thing, and I have to say that anyone in a relationship where you keep breaking up and getting together is definitely not worth the time and the effort. Why would you want to keep going through something like that? I do not see that as a healthy relationship. American dramas and soap operas are crap examples of relationships. Try watching some romantic movies instead, at least some of them are a little more realistic. I don't believe that anyone gets together right at the beginning and stays that happy and loving for a long time. It's healthy to have a good fight once in a while, as long as you can work things out between yourselves, and no, I'm not talking about fighting/breaking up/getting back together/breaking up again, so on and so forth. And please, for the love of Cleris could you maybe be just a little less repetitive? I could barely read your post. |
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| Sadhana | Dec 14 2007, 04:09 AM Post #122 |
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capitalism is dead
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~will be slightly off-topic~ UM, if that's how you feel, then can I ask why you're a Cleris fan? I mean, Cloud and Aerith don't have any scenes of blatant physical affection that you're talking about, and they're not in a relationship, ever. Maybe once Cloud dies than can be "reunited," but they would never be a couple in the way that you seem to enjoy. Personally, I like the fact that Cloud and Aerith never have a kiss scene or declarations of love. The theme of loss has always been what drew me into them as a couple. A lot of people argue against Cleris by saying "Aerith is dead." Yeah, she is, but that's most of what I love about it. They can never be together in that traditional way. There's only the love that could've been. It's that bittersweet tragedy that I enjoy about them, so to me, seeing them "in a relationship" with "hundreds of kisses" isn't important at all. |
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| Kit | Dec 14 2007, 12:21 PM Post #123 |
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The Walrus
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Oh my... you know, I could love someone and never ever kiss them once. If I fell in love with a guy and he died before we could ever make lip to lip contact then I would still love him. What does it matter if you or do not kiss? What does it matter if you kiss once or a hundred times? Love is about emotions not about physical touching or "dating". Are you saying one can not love another with out "being boyfriend and girlfriend" and kissing a bunch? To be honest, I don't know what your point is. You sound almost anti-cleris in this statement. You must be able to draw the line between love and lust. You can kiss, cuddle, and sleep with a man as much as you like but that doesn't mean you love him. And then again you can not do all that and still have romantic feelings. It is a shame to the word love to believe it so. Love is about a deep, heart-felt connection. You don't need to be kissing and touching. All you need is the feeling you have for each other. And as an aside, it seems you just like touting off your love for teen soaps from the 90's. I mean, all you do is post these sorts of things and images on the pairing image war. It's rather misplaced in a forum that is mostly focused on gaming and a particular game pairing. |
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| Wintercream | Dec 14 2007, 05:47 PM Post #124 |
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A series of uncommon places
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Does it really matter if they kissed and went on dates and all that? That doesn't clarify the love they had for eachother becuase their love is more emotional then physical. Yes, I would have loved to see a scene when they kiss but the fact that they didn't just makes thier emotional bonding even stronger. Becuase they didn't ,and I'm very sure Cloud longs for somesort of physical connection of that sorts, just ties them togethor even stronger IMHO. There are people who have had physical contact like that and arn't that deeply in love with eachother. Then there is Cleris.
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| UsagiMamoru | Dec 14 2007, 05:53 PM Post #125 |
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I think you misunderstood my post. I'm saying that it would be better to want C/A to be in a relationship than just want them to kiss. I was saying that I liked series with couples that were in relationships and it would be cool if C/A had a relationship like relationships in soap operas and teen dramas. So what I was saying is wouldn't you rather want to see C/A in a relationship and dating and being boyfriend/girlfriend for a long time and having a committed relationship and having hundreds of kisses and talks and sharing their emotions and being a real couple in a long-term relationship and getting married and actually see that relationship than just a kiss? Anyway, there is nothing wrong with a topic that is three years old, just revival of old topics can be embarrassing for some people. I remember there was this forum I hadn't been on in seven years, I go there, and someone had revived this totally embarrassing ridiculous post I had made seven years ago that I had wanted dead and buried to the front page. People change in time. The fact that an embarrassing, humiliating, way inaccurate from now post from seven years ago was revived to a front page in a forum that I hadn't been to in seven years really made me so embarrassed and this thread was already revived and it would be unfair to someone if they had made a post years ago in this thread that they had regretted or been embarrassed by reviving. I'm just thinking about how someone else would feel in that situation. Also, soap opera couples are really good, I have watched many soap operas and they have the best love stories and they show couples dating and in relationships and being boyfriend/girlfriend and going out. Television couples from romantic television shows and soap operas are far better than movies, because in shows you see the relationship for a long period of time. If you watch good dramas you can see how great it is each episode watching the couple dating and being in a relationship, watching each episode, seeing them go out on dates, seeing them be an actual couple that you can relate to. What I said is that it is more important to be a couple in a relationship than just kiss. I just said that it's best when series show couples that are dating and in a relationship and boyfriend/girlfriend and couples that are together and share their emotions and face obstacles as a couple. Television couples are much better than movie couples because you see them in a relationship and continuing to be in a relationship, you see the relationship move every episode from a casual dating relationship into a mature, committed relationship where their is complete trust and love and the couple knows all of each other's feelings and it could show the couple getting married and the couple's marriage. Television couples are better than movie couples because you actually see the couple's relationship mature while they are in a relationship. 300 hours gives much more time and television couples can give more to the relationship than movie couples. Anyway, a summary of what I said is that it's better for a couple in a relationship that's together instead of just a kiss, you should want more in a series, like an actual relationship, what is wrong with saying that it's best to see couples that are in relationships? Anyway, television drama couples are really good if you watch them, I'm not asking you to watch them, I'm just stating the fact that they are really good to watch them from when they first started dating, to when their relationship became serious, to when they break up, to when they get married, to when they have kids, there's just more potential. I had written the message really fast so it was repetetive. That was my message before I decided to edit it and wrote this. I'm not the only one who posts actual couples from television series that are dating and in a relationship and a couple during the beginning and middle of a series in the pairing image war topic in the spam section, I can name at least four other users that do that. I happen to say either get the couple together in the beginning of the series or the middle of the series and show them dating and in a relationship and being boyfriend/girlfriend for a long time and show them as a real couple and show them go through obstacles as a couple and have them be a happy couple for a long time and have them break up, get back together, be a dating couple in a relationship, get engaged, get married, move in together, go through obstacles as a couple or, if you can't show that, then do something like C/A where there is a tragedy that separates them, but do not do a cheap unrealistic happy ending because that is not how things work, you need to see the couple dating and being boyfriend and girlfriend and being a couple and being in a relationship so you can know how they work as a couple. You can't just show a couple kisses and assume the relationship will work out, you have to show them dating and being boyfriend/girlfriend and being in a relationship and getting engaged, getting married, facing break ups and obstacles as a couple before you can say that it's fulfilling. And yes, it's been a long time but from what I recall I did like Cloud with Aeris, it's been a very long time but I did appreciate that they didn't take the easy way out and hook Cloud up with Tifa. It would have been much better to just not kill off Aeris and have Cloud start dating Aeris after the date at the gold saucer and show them being a couple and being boyfriend/girlfriend in a long term relationship and having them face obstacles as a couple in a committed relationship and show them dating and being an actual couple for a long time. It would be awesome if they had a committed relationship and went on dates in between missions, had lots of kisses after every battle, got engaged, talked about their relationship, spent time as a couple in between missions, worked on obstacles in their relationship, got married, had a honeymoon, eloped or had a wedding, been a married couple, and show them dating and having a relationship as a committed couple. I mean, it just would have been great to have them dating and being in a relationship, it would add needed drama and it just would be great to see their relationship as a couple start as dating and a casual relationship and become a serious and committed relationship and show a marriage and then show them being married and how they are as a married couple. Yeah, that's ideal but it is a fantasy series. A real relationship is very different, but this is a series where things are different. Or to have Cloud and Aeris dating and being boyfriend/girlfriend and in a committed relationship and make Aeris's death have an even bigger impact on Cloud. A good example is Dylan and Toni, they were boyfriend and girlfriend and dating and in a relationship, they got engaged, they got married and they had a similar relationship type to C/A, Dylan was dark and troubled and Toni was bright and cheerful, but lonely and felt like no one truly understood her and they started dating and became a couple in a committed relationship. They went on dates, they were boyfriend and girlfriend and dating and a couple and were just like Cloud/Aeris but a real couple in a relationship. Dylan who was very dark and intent on killing Toni's father as revenge for killing his father was now the boyfriend of the daughter of the guy who had ruined his life, but Toni's cheerfulness, optimistic and caring side had made Dylan who was at a very dark place at that time, give up this mission of killing Toni's father and Dylan being Toni's boyfriend for a couple months made him change and become truly happy despite his dark past and he gave up his need for revenge and asked Toni to marry him. They had only been boyfriend and girlfriend for a couple months but Toni had changed his life so much. Toni got Dylan to change and become bright and the whole gang was supportive of the marriage, in fact, they were the same ages as Cloud and Aeris and they got married and had a private wedding ceremony, after the wedding they went to live in Dylan's house and planned on moving to be away from Toni's father, but Toni's father hired hitmen to kill Dylan at night while asking him to drive there. Toni drove their instead and Dylan ran to find his wife, Toni and the hitmen had shot Toni and Dylan ran up to Toni and held Toni, his wife who was just shot and killed right in front of him in his arms and cried and sobbed into Toni's body and held Toni in his arms and then went to Toni's funeral and was so depressed that he left. Dylan then told the guy who shot his wife that nothing else mattered to him and he left. That is extremely similar to C/A. That is a couple from a famous soap opera/drama series which has a similar storyline to C/A, only they were dating and boyfriend/girlfriend and husband/wife and in an actual relationship and got engaged and got married and had a wedding. Wouldn't it be great if C/A had that, too? That's what I was posting. In fact, it would have been even better if they had hooked Cloud/Aeris up early on back when they first met so it could be about them being a couple in a relationship while facing day to day challenges of dating and being in a relationship while going through things. However, if they weren't going to do that and weren't going to show Cloud and Aeris in a long-term relationship as a couple and dating, it is better that they have a tragedy than to have Cloud hook up with Tifa later. Wow, that was repetetive and confusing. C/A was fine the way it was, I don't remember as much about C/A, but they were really sweet and cute and fun and it would've been even better to see them dating and in a relationship like couples from television shows. American soap operas and dramas are good for realistic couples in relationships, because I know because I've watched them, I think it depends on which series you've watched, because if you sit down and watch them, they are really excellent, the couples get together at the beginning of the series and instead of waiting to get together, they are already together from the beginning and instead it can focus on their actual relationship. When did I say anything about physical being more important than emotional, if anything, I was saying that dating and being a couple and being in an actual relationship is more important than just a couple of kisses. This post is way too long but there isn't enough time to check to make sure whether or not I repeated myself, it's like, really easy to repeat yourself when you write messages out of order, but why are so many people upset by my message? I just don't understand it. I never intended to upset someone and I don't know why my message would upset anyone. I'd say I'm sorry, but I don't understand how it could upset anyone because all of the replies made my message sound different from how it was intended to sound. I did not once say that physical was more important than emotional, what I said was that dating and being in a relationship and being boyfriend/girlfriend and being a couple with communication is more important than physical parts. It's better when couples get together in the beginning of the series so you see them dating and in a relationship and see them grow and mature as a couple and the realistic struggles of being in a relationship, and watching a couple in a relationship while being in a relationship with an boy that gets into trouble a lot really helps seeing other relationships and see how other couples get through their issues which helps you get through your issues as a couple. I'm sorry if somehow I unintentionally caused someone to be upset, I'm really in a hurry and I have to go, but I'm upset that people were upset by my message, it really made me feel bad, that my posts could cause such a bad reaction, it really upset me and I don't like upsetting people, so can you please not be upset by my posts because that's not my intention, I just feel bad. Also, taking a couple sentences I wrote and making it like my whole post is that and quoting me like that is not fair, my whole post was
I define a couple as being in a relationship and dating and being a couple. Just because I like watching couples that are dating and boyfriend/girlfriend and in a relationship for a long time during the series that get together early on in the beginning of the series and that I like couples from television series does not mean that I don't like couples that don't have that, I just prefer series that get the couple together early on in the beginning of the series so the series is about seeing the couple dating and in a relationship instead of waiting for a relationship to happen, it's much better when the couple is already in a relationship so you see the relationship move forward. C/A is fine the way it is but what I'm saying is that a relationship is more than just a couple kisses, a relationship is about being a couple. This post is way too long and off topic, but when I was writing it I was in a hurry and did not have time to edit for repetition. I am aware that it is repetetive, but I did not write it in order or take the time to organize it or something. Edit: I never intended it to be that long and repetetive but I edited it out of order and I extremely apologize for the repetition, I could cut that post into a quarter of it's length and still have the same message, I really am sorry for making such a long and drawn out post, I really hope you do not hold that against me, I'm just much better in social situations than on the computer or internet situations, I've obviously got a problem with typing a message that makes sense over the internet and I'm not claiming to be good at typing messages over the internet, but I do have good ideas and opinions, but they're just not that good expressed in message board format in a short period of time when I have had a bad day and cannot put that much effort into an internet post and really would be extremely grateful if you gave me a chance to try and do this posting thing better, I did not intend for this post to turn out like this it just did, but if you're pissed at my posting style I completely understand and will stop posting in any section other than the spam section. This was probably my longest, most repetetive, most confusing message of all time. I am seriously nervous that it'll get some bad feedback and I don't want that and probably should just quit while I'm ahead, I'm just making a total fool out of myself on a messageboard when I'm not good at internet stuff in the first place, so, bye, and you're right I was too repetetive, sorry I couldn't type in a more coherent manner. I will never make a post like this ever again. Yikes, I just reread my message, it's way too long and repetetive, if I was reading a message like this I would just give up, it's so confusing. X_X I need to shorten this thing to make it a paragraph, you are absolutely right it is way too damn long, but at least it was written. |
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