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Where Is Cloud Living?; This is driving me crazy
Topic Started: Oct 26 2004, 01:45 AM (3,340 Views)
Shiva
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SweetJanie
Nov 26 2004, 04:23 PM
Oh, about Seventh Heaven...they must've cleaned up all the mess, right? Cause I remember the plate falling over it...must be weird to live on a place where so many friends were lost... :unsure: Remember Biggs, Wedge and Jessie? She had a crush on Cloud :wub: No one resists his charm :lol:

They may have rebuilt it somewhere else, too. It has been two years, after all...

Anyways, I want to know what you guys think of this, brought up by a CloTi in the LT debate... This CloTi stated that, if Cloud is living with orphans, then he HAS to be living with Tifa. Their rational: If Cloud lives with some other orphans, but still travels, who takes care of the orphans in his absence? This is actually one of the few CloTi points I have heard that kind of makes sense. However, if this was a TRUE orphanage, not just Tifa taking care of two orphans at Seventh Heaven, wouldn't these children have matrons (women who watch over them)? I mean, if this was a true orphanage, wouldn't there be MORE than one person to take care of them all??? While their logic had some potential, I believe it just falls short... What do you guys think? I mean, I cannot PROVE that Cloud lives in a large orphanage with 20-something orphans. But, it makes more sense this way as it does not contradict the words of Nomura and Kitase, not to mention Square-Enix.
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Sefie
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Humm*reads big long post* Maybe you should be a lil nicer FFG. I mean, if you're simply stating your facts, you shouldn't call people stupid. You should give your evidence in a ration, respectable manner. Not all CloTi's who are gonna read that are the means ones who insult you. Plus, it gives Cleris fans a bad image.

Back to business! Ya know, if they stated as recently as the Film Festivals, then I'd say it's up to date. Cuz that wasn't terribly long ago. Not long enough to make such a huge change and not get set back another year. Besides, all the "evidence" that Cloud's living with Tifa was presented there, so they'd really be contradicting themselves to say one thing in the program and another on screen.
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Shiva
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Nov 27 2004, 03:16 AM
Humm*reads big long post* Maybe you should be a lil nicer FFG. I mean, if you're simply stating your facts, you shouldn't call people stupid. You should give your evidence in a ration, respectable manner. Not all CloTi's who are gonna read that are the means ones who insult you. Plus, it gives Cleris fans a bad image.

Have you read the love triangle debate lately, Sefie? They have been on there typing things that I never said and then calling me a liar. They have been twisting my words and calling me a liar. Why should I be nice to them? I have tried that before, remember. It doesn't work with them. :rolleyes:

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Back to business! Ya know, if they stated as recently as the Film Festivals, then I'd say it's up to date. Cuz that wasn't terribly long ago. Not long enough to make such a huge change and not get set back another year. Besides, all the "evidence" that Cloud's living with Tifa was presented there, so they'd really be contradicting themselves to say one thing in the program and another on screen.


I know. Nothing we have seen so far has stated that Cloud lives with Tifa. We have only been told that Cloud is living with some orphans. It doesn't say where... it doesn't say how many orphans... and it SURE never mentions Tifa. And yet they are claiming that he is living with Tifa. <_< *Sighs*
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I know. Nothing we have seen so far has stated that Cloud lives with Tifa. We have only been told that Cloud is living with some orphans. It doesn't say where... it doesn't say how many orphans... and it SURE never mentions Tifa. And yet they are claiming that he is living with Tifa.  *Sighs*

Well, at least that makes them happy... <_< Don't worry, in the end Cloriths will be laughing out loud cause of the movie ^-^

*imagines a romantic seen and hugs cloud and aeris dolls*

:wub:
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Anastar
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Nov 27 2004, 01:39 AM
Anyways, I want to know what you guys think of this, brought up by a CloTi in the LT debate... This CloTi stated that, if Cloud is living with orphans, then he HAS to be living with Tifa.

Where did it ever say that Tifa was living with the orphans? I don't remember that ever being said. All I remember Square saying is that Tifa knows the suffering of the orphans. I don't ever remember them saying that she was living with them.

We've only seen ONE orphan living with Tifa: Denzel. If Cloud is living with orphans, then where's the rest of them? There's no evidence of any other children living in the Seventh Heaven, and I'm not sure that the Seventh Heaven has enough room to house the number of children we saw in this photo:

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There's all of your orphans. How are all of them going to be living in the Seventh Heaven without there being any evidence of them? The Seventh Heaven doesn't even have room for that many.

Square has said that Cloud is living a solitary life, but they've also said that he was living with the orphans, and that he was working in an orphanage alone. Then they said he was working as a courier. How can he be working in an orphanage alone and working as a courier, too? How can he be living a solitary life and living with orphans at the same time? All the information is contradictory, which indicates that Square wants to keep us guessing until the movie is released.

But one thing has NOT been contradicted: Square has never said that Cloud was living with Tifa. Square has never said that Tifa is Cloud's girlfriend. The AC website says nothing about Tifa being Cloud's girlfriend or about Cloud living with Tifa. The WCM never said that Cloud is living with Tifa, either. The ONLY thing stated by Square is that Cloud is living with orphans, not with Tifa.
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Of course, this theory may sound incredibly stupid to some of you, but it just floated into my brain when I was in a Denzel-like daze....:

What if Cloud leaves the orphans to Barret when he does his courier duties? :blink:

They don't have to necessarily live under one roof, though... it could be that Cloud lives in a separate crib, but spends a lot of his free time with the orphans... not living with Tifa... and Barret could be.. the babysitter? :blink:

(Of course, that wouldn't completely explain why Cloud would not leave the orphans to Tifa, if she's perfectly capable of taking care of them...)

Okay, never mind, that's incredibly stupid, yep it is. I just thought that since Barret's role isn't very clear in the movie, but being Marlene's daddy, he should have a fairly big one, right? And he knows about Denzel, too, so maybe... maybe... Aw, man.

I wish Square would just make things clear, demet.
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Nov 28 2004, 01:35 AM
Of course, this theory may sound incredibly stupid to some of you, but it just floated into my brain when I was in a Denzel-like daze....:

What if Cloud leaves the orphans to Barret when he does his courier duties? :blink:

But Square has already said that Barret leaves Marlene in Tifa's care while he works in a mine to build an alternative energy source for Mako.
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Good points, Anastar! ^_^

Wow... :blink: Those are a lot of orphans. It is funny, the CloTis cannot seem to grasp that there would have to be MORE THAN ONE orphanage to house all of the orphans who lost their parents in FFVII. I just cannot figure out how to nail it into their thick skulls. I have typed until my fingers are about to fall off and they keep up that "OMG, Cloud is living with Tifa and he's adopted all the orphans!" nonsense... <_<
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*sighs* Well, there goes that theory. (flushes last post down the toilet) :P

As long as it is proven by you guys that Cloud does not live with Tifa...!!! :)
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So, any thoughts on where all of those orphans are from? Is it one large official orphanage? Or is it several small orphanages? Any idea on location? Who is taking care of them when Cloud is working at Strife Delivery Service?
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The Trailer from Young GanGan magazine apparently shows us where the orphanage is... and it's NOT at the Seventh Heaven!! *woot!*

Here's some screens from the trailer:

http://www.geocities.com/ffseriespics/orphanage.htm

You can see all the children hanging around in one location. The camera shows you all the children on the street, then zooms in on that alleyway behind them. As it moves down the alleyway, you see more children sitting in the alley. At the end of the alleyway, you see this:

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Doesn't that look like the entrance to the orphanage?
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That's interesting..I mean seeing the orphans finally... but how do you know that is not seventh heaven aly?
hmmm but it looks a bit like the place where WCM was found.. then again i amnot sure :ph43r:
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slowerthanaverage
Dec 10 2004, 02:36 AM
That's interesting..I mean seeing the orphans finally... but how do you know that is not seventh heaven aly?

Coz we saw the same orphans from the side in the E3 trailer. They were on the street under the statue of the Angel. :rolleyes:

Watch it in the trailer. It's a bit more clear where they are.
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:o oh ok..yes i see it.. it's the alleyway i think... but how could an alley become an orphanage...everything is getting weirder by the days :ph43r:
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slowerthanaverage
Dec 10 2004, 04:59 PM
:o  oh ok..yes i see it.. it's the alleyway i think... but how could an alley become an orphanage...everything is getting weirder by the days  :ph43r:

No, no... the alley isn't the orphanage. The alley leads to the *doorway* of the orphanage. The kids are just hanging out on the street during the day. They probably go inside the orphanage to sleep.
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