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| Where Is Cloud Living?; This is driving me crazy | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Oct 26 2004, 01:45 AM (3,341 Views) | |
| Anastar | Nov 8 2004, 08:53 PM Post #16 |
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To touch the light I see in your eyes...
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*Woot!* Great find, Aerith! On the official site, even! :lol: That's perfect! They said something about Cloud returning to Midgar just before all the hoopla started. Apparently, he stops by the Seventh Heaven and the orphanage as he returns, then leaves to go stay at the Church. Remember Nomura saying something about Cloud recently returned to Midgar and that's where the scene in Tifa's bar take place? He probably means the scene when Tifa says, "He's not here". Now, Square ~ make that clear in the movie! |
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| Aerith | Nov 8 2004, 08:58 PM Post #17 |
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cloud aikou
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Yeah, I guess so ! All clear now
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| Hardedge | Nov 8 2004, 11:16 PM Post #18 |
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ano Bubuzuke!
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lol, that mustve been one slap in the face for the clotis :lol: |
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| Shiva | Nov 9 2004, 01:18 AM Post #19 |
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Yep, that's what I have been saying all along! ;) The picture with Cloud in it and Tifa's quote are all due to a recent visit, NOTHING MORE. He stays in Aerith's church while in Midgar, rather than Seventh Heaven with Tifa. *Smirks* I think he stays in the church because he feels closest to Aerith and he can hide the fact that he has Geostigma from everyone.
Yeah, too bad we couldn't see their expressions when their lame CloTi dreams came crashing down... :rolleyes: (Yes, I am a certified CloTi-hater) |
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| Kaldea | Nov 9 2004, 03:37 AM Post #20 |
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Aww... The more I learn about him wanting to be alone with his feelings and condition, the more I feel sorry for him. I hope Cloud ends up being happy! Bah. I can see a lot of awkward silences whenever he does see Tifa.
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| Clorith | Nov 9 2004, 08:35 AM Post #21 |
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Queen of Sap~*
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Lol, my my are we agressive today. ![]() Yep, that's what I've been saying all along. Cloud just pops by to visit, nothing more! Pity people won't believe us. Well, just wait for the movie. Hopefully SE makes it crystal clear. |
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| Sefie | Nov 9 2004, 06:27 PM Post #22 |
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Eyes of dream-water
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Exactly. They like to pretend that SE's just fibbing when they say Cloud lives alone. "Tifa says Cloud's not here anymore! That means he was! that means he lives with her! WAAAAH!" "Two pictures of Cloud in her house means he lives there! WHAAAA!" |
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| Anastar | Nov 9 2004, 07:13 PM Post #23 |
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To touch the light I see in your eyes...
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The trouble is that we hear that in interviews and we see that on the website, but the trailers have left it open to interpretation. I sure hope the movie makes it clear, or else we'll be hearing "that's not what the movie said!!!!!!!!" for the next umpteen years. :angry: |
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| Shiva | Nov 19 2004, 03:02 AM Post #24 |
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On the OFFICIAL S-E USA site: Two years after the events of FINAL FANTASY VII, the ruins of Midgar stand as testament to the sacrifices that were made in order to bring peace. However, the world will soon face a new menace. A mysterious illness is spreading fast. Old enemies are astir. And Cloud, who walked away from the life of a hero to live in solitude, must step forward yet again… How do you like THEM apples, CloTis? :lol: They cannot say the official site is lying, now can they? |
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| Velut Luna | Nov 19 2004, 03:43 AM Post #25 |
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My destiny is in your hands
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i just hope they make it all clear in the movie ;)
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| Anastar | Nov 19 2004, 03:53 AM Post #26 |
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To touch the light I see in your eyes...
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I hope that Square makes it clear, too... because it hasn't been made clear at all in the previews we've seen at the film festivals. Square has made it very clear in interviews and on their website, but that will be quickly forgotten if the movie doesn't also make it clear. |
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| Sefie | Nov 19 2004, 03:54 PM Post #27 |
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Eyes of dream-water
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Yeah, it's really frustrating. In the trailers it really does look very much like he's living there(at least SOME of the time)and CloTi's take that to mean that SE changed their mind, but never updated their websites. I mean, have they EVER changed a game that much? And then not TOLD anyone about it til it came out? |
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| Enima | Nov 25 2004, 10:23 AM Post #28 |
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Aerith's little sister
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From what I see in the trailers and what I've read in several places, Cloud seems to be wondering alone and not living anywhere near Tifa but with orphans. Maybe it's the handphone scenes which cause the Cloti fans to think otherwise. Can't be too sure myself other than that. |
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| Shiva | Nov 26 2004, 02:44 AM Post #29 |
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I have been revamping my website with a big section dedicated to the love triangle. The pages are not finished and are not posted as of yet. However, this is what I had to say about this issue on my page... ...After the release of the images of Aerith, Dengeki published another article that had profiles of the characters... Cloud: After the battle, he hid in secret and lived a quiet life alone. However, he is attacked by the three mysterious men who suddenly appear, and decides to once again return to the battleground. Not even knowing what they want, he is forced to draw his sword. Aerith: A woman who fell to Sephiroth's sword during the battle two years ago. A young woman resembling her appears before Cloud. Are these dreams Cloud is having...? Or are they...?! Is there a chance she will be revived?! Tifa: She returned to Seventh Heaven in Midgar after the fighting, and manages it alone. As before, she takes good care of Marlene, Barret's daughter. Tifa supported Cloud from the shadows. But it doesn't seem that they got together after the fighting. They are living apart, and Cloud doesn't communicate with her much. Aerith is still in Cloud's heart, and Tifa understands that. It looks like that sort of relationship. Notice that it was stated AGAIN that Aerith lives in Cloud's heart. Was anything of the sort mentioned about Tifa? NO. What of Tifa, you ask? Well... she is living in Midgar, managing the Seventh Heaven Bar ALONE. She is taking care of Marlene and an orphan named Denzel. She and Cloud have been living apart, as Cloud refuses the company of others. However, we find out that she does act as a relay service for Cloud's messenger service ("Strife Delivery Service"), calling him with job offers. Some CloTis want me to believe this means that Cloud and Tifa are lovers. What, he is sleeping with her because she answers the phone for him??? HA!!!! How ABSURD!!!!! I don't guess you guys have paid attention to ANY of the information we have gotten on AC so far that states that Tifa and Cloud have been living apart. I don't guess you noticed all of the wolf symbolism revolving around Cloud (the name of his bike, the wolf jewelry...). In all ways, Cloud is a LONE WOLF. Also, I don't guess you noticed that he is much more focused on Aerith than Tifa (points up to all of the info above). Some CloTis, who like to ignore everything we have learned about AC so far, want us to believe that Cloud is living with Tifa. However, in an interview with Tetsuya Nomura, the director of Advent Children, he stated: "Cloud, who up till this point has lived apart from his former friends, now returns to Midgar, at which point the scene in Tifa's bar probably takes place. Otherwise, he spends much of his time travelling on Fenrir (as a kind of 'carrier') and frequently changes where he stays." So, from the director's own lips, we hear that Cloud has lived apart from his friends since the events of FFVII. In an interview with Tetsuya Nomura and Yoshinori Kitase, in which they were asked about the status of Cloud and Tifa's relationship, we hear this: "It's now two years after that journey, Tifa manages the bar Seventh Heaven in Midgar sector 7 by herself. We can gather that they haven't seen each other in awhile from the words 'how are you'?...." So, please, do not even begin to tell me that you know more than two of the men who are working on the movie! Nomura and Kitase have never retracted their statements and they have never contradicted their statements. It has NEVER been said that Cloud lives with Tifa. In one of the trailers, the man in the wheelchair stated that Cloud was living with some orphans. However, the only orphans we have seen living with Tifa are a boy named Denzel and Marlene. In the trailers, we see 20-something orphans with one of the bad guys. Where did they all come from? Were they ever shown with Tifa? NO. I am sure many, many children lost their parents when Meteor destroyed Midgar in FFVII. Seventh Heaven isn't going to house them all. So, it is my belief that Cloud is living with orphans in another location. However, he never stays in one place for long. This interpretation works best, because it doesn't contradict every last shred of information we have gotten on Cloud so far regarding him being a loner. Even the Tour Program for the Dear Friends Concert stated: Cloud, who fought for the sake of his world once before has rejected society to live in solitude, must step forward yet again. The OFFICIAL Square-Enix USA site says this: And Cloud, who walked away from the life of a hero to live in solitude, must step forward yet again. So WHEN did ANY of this say anything about Cloud living with Tifa??? NEVER. The sooner some of you CloTis get that through your delusional heads, the better... Some of the most PATHETIC CloTi evidence ever has surfaced with the latest trailers. They claim that they have evidence that Cloud lives with Tifa, regardless of everything that I have just presented that states OTHERWISE. Their so-called "evidence"... 1. A picture on the wall of Cloud that one of the orphans drew. Okay, if this is all you have, then that is REALLY sad. What if Marlene drew it? She KNOWS Cloud, for Pete's sake! She knew him during the events of FFVII, too. I am certain that Cloud does stop by for visits. So, NO, this is NOT evidence for Cloud living with Tifa. Sorry to burst your bubble. 2. A picture of Cloud, Tifa, Denzel, and Marlene on the desk. Oh, you mean the picture of Cloud standing to the far left, looking morose, and Tifa standing with Denzel and Marlene? The fact that Tifa and Cloud are so far apart is amusing. The CloTis want to claim this is proof of their so-called "love" and they even want me to believe this means they LIVE together. How ABSURD!!!!!!!! Have you ever heard of something called a "visit"? You know, where someone stops by and then LEAVES? I am sorry, but one picture does not=Cloud living with Tifa. Was he anywhere NEAR Tifa in the picture? No. Was he smiling? No. He looked as though he is merely tolerating having his picture taken. Also, in the photo, Cloud has Geostigma already. And you want me to believe that Cloud is living with Tifa? Don't you think she would have noticed if Cloud had a TERMINAL ILLNESS??? Give me a break!!! Anyways, I will be adding more later. Let me know what you guys think so far... |
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| SweetJanie | Nov 26 2004, 04:23 PM Post #30 |
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Hum...Big post as always :) You're right FFG, Clotis are just more fanatics than we are and, even with all the evidence supporting us, they won't give up on what they belive is the absolute truth. -_- Oh, about Seventh Heaven...they must've cleaned up all the mess, right? Cause I remember the plate falling over it...must be weird to live on a place where so many friends were lost... Remember Biggs, Wedge and Jessie? She had a crush on Cloud No one resists his charm :lol:
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as always :)
No one resists his charm :lol:
8:45 AM Jul 11