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Where Is Cloud Living?; This is driving me crazy
Topic Started: Oct 26 2004, 01:45 AM (3,331 Views)
Anastar
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I'm getting very confused over this issue, and it's beginning to drive me crazy. When Square first announced Advent Children last September, they said that Cloud has been living alone and away from his former friends for the last two years. Then they said that he was working in an orphanage by himself. Then they changed it, and Nomura said in an interview last summer that Cloud has been working as a courier and travelling around on Fenrir. Kitase said in an interview that Cloud and Tifa have had little contact during the last two years. Nomura said in another interview that Cloud returned to Midgar at the beginning of AC. Dorimaga magazine said this last summer:

Cloud: After the battle, he hid in secret and lived a quiet life alone. However, he is attacked by the three mysterious men who suddenly appear, and decides to once again return to the battleground. Not even knowing what they want, he is forced to draw his sword.
Aerith: A woman who fell to Sephiroth's sword during the battle two years ago. A young woman resembling her appears before Cloud. Are these dreams Cloud is having....? Or are they...!? Is there a chance she will be revived!?
Tifa: She returned to Seventh Heaven in Midgar after the fighting, and manages it alone. As before, she takes good care of Marlene, Barret's daughter. Tifa supported Cloud from the shadows. But it doesn't seem that they got together after the fighting. They are living apart, and Cloud doesn't communicate with her much. Aerith is still in Cloud's heart, and Tifa understands that... It looks like that sort of relationship.


Last summer, Gangan magazine quoted Nomura as saying that Cloud had been living alone and that he returned to Midgar at the beginning of AC. Yet, the latest translation of a recording from the Montreal Film Festival has these quotes:

[Tifa] He's not here anymore.
[Denzel] Cloud? Where's Cloud?
[Tifa] This is Strife Delivery Service.


[WCM] I heard you've been living with the orphans.
Wouldn't you like to put the smiles back onto their faces? Our ultimate
objective here is the restoration of the world, Cloud.


Marlene] Is Cloud living here?
[Tifa] Tifa: Seems like it to me...
[Marlene] This is the same as Denzel's...! Is Cloud sick, too?!
[Tifa] You could've told us...
[Marlene] Was it 'cos he's sick that he left?


[Cloud] Vincent, could you take Marlene back with you to the Seventh Heaven?
I have something to talk about with those ShinRa buggers....
[Vincent] I cannot agree with that.
....
[Cloud] C'mon, Marlene! Let's go home.


The trailers are making it look as if he were living at the Seventh Heaven, and the implication in this trailer is that he left to go live in the Church because he was sick. Square has been telling us otherwise for months. What's going on here?
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Miss Yukari
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The thing is, we don't know the context behind Marlene's words. It might be that he visited, then left because he didn't want anyone to notice he was sick. That might be why Denzel asked where he was, and why Tifa said he wasn't there anymore. If he was living there, why would Tifa leave a message asking if he was doing okay? Wouldn't she know this if they were living together?

Also, how many children is Tifa looking after? We know she takes care of Denzel and Marlene, but there's no mention of any other children and we don't see any other kids in 7th Heaven in the trailer. Marlene has Barret, who she still sees as her dad so she isn't really an orphan in that sense. Why would Kadaj say 'orphans'? As far as we know, there's only one orphan living with Tifa - Denzel.

Maybe Cloud just means Midgar itself when he says 'let's go home' to Marlene? After all, they are quite far away from it if they're in the Sleeping Forest.

And even if he was living with Tifa, doesn't the fact that they've been living together and are still not a couple reinforce what we've been saying all along, that they're no more than friends and this will always be the case? ;)
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I agree with Madame.

I don't think that Square will run us around like this so badly. Frankly i think te truth of it will come out with the movie. And like Madame says all of this still points away from a Cloud Tifa relationship which is the important matter here

Damn i had something else to ask about AC but i've forgotten...hmmm i'll be back later.
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I believe the interviews, Square-Enix is only doing this to confuse us..I don't think Nomura would lie in an interview would he?
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I agree that all the phrases can be interpreted in different ways, but there's a lot of implication that he was living at the Seventh Heaven until he got Geostigma. The bit about "Let's go home", for example, is said after Cloud asks Vincent to take Marlene back to the Seventh Heaven... so "home" can easily refer back to "Seventh Heaven", especially since Marlene lives there.

I guess it just bothers me that Square would be giving the Cloti's so much too chew on and work with. I was expecting it to be very clear that he was living alone. Perhaps Square is just throwing these hints at the beginning of the movie to give the Cloti's something to keep them happy when Cloud gets re-united with Aerith at the end? :lol:
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Hmmm...I think that "Let's go home" was more indicated to Marlene..like her home or something, not THEIR HOME. XD like.."let's go to your home"
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Oct 26 2004, 11:34 AM
Hmmm...I think that "Let's go home" was more indicated to Marlene..like her home or something, not THEIR HOME. XD like.."let's go to your home"

Yeah, the thing is... it can be interpreted either way. My immediate thought when Cloud said that was that he meant the Seventh Heaven... so it gives the Cloti's food to chew on even though it can't be proven. The other statements are open to interpretation, too. I'd just rather that it be MUCH clearer that he's been alone.
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Aly i really don't think it's going to matter.

We all know that nomura has said we won't be dissapointed in Aeris and that for me means we won't be dissapointed with the love triangle either.

And does it really matter that the Cloti's have something to chew on? They'll always find something to chew on...always

*sits back in rocking chair waiting for Clotis to find something to chew on back and forth back and forth*
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I wouldn't worry about it, Aly. I think all Square are doing is trying to keep us guessing with regards to the love triangle. They don't want to disappoint either side. And as Raist said, the CloTi's are always going to find something to argue with us about. Knowing some of them, they'd say the photo of Cloud, Tifa, Denzel and Marlene proves that Cloud has married Tifa and adopted the kids! :lol: Yep, sure looks like a cozy family photo, what with Cloud being stood as far away as possible without being out of the photo. :rolleyes:
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Raist
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the photo of Cloud, Tifa, Denzel and Marlene proves that Cloud has married Tifa and adopted the kids!


*puts on best Cloti impersonation* Yeh that's true didn't you know that???

But seriously Madame is right. Clotis will argue anything so it matters little what Square releases except for AC and i really think we won't be dissapointed with that. Well you might be because i'm not so sure that Cloud will end up with anyone but he won't be with Tifa i'm sure of that. *hopes these aren't famous last words*
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Oct 27 2004, 01:10 AM
But seriously Madame is right. Clotis will argue anything so it matters little what Square releases except for AC and i really think we won't be dissapointed with that. Well you might be because i'm not so sure that Cloud will end up with anyone but he won't be with Tifa i'm sure of that. *hopes these aren't famous last words*

I agree. The CloTis are clinging with all their might to a few snippets from the trailers which change with each translation. Nomura and Kitase both stated that Cloud has been living alone for the past two years. I think I will go with them.
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This's really been driving me nutso too! I mean, we get a different setting for Cloud every time! He lives alone on his bike, he lives in the church, he lives with Tifa, etc etc etc. The interviews say alone, the trailers say "With Tifa" or "in the church after Tifa" or "In the church cuz he's sick but nobody knows where he was before"
SOOO-OOOOOo confusing!
BTW, I never SAW that stupid photo! Anybody got a pic of it I could look at? I think I saw a screenshot of it, but I couldn't make out anything beyond a swirl of colors.
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Yeah, there have been too many theories about this. But I guess the latest would have to be him living in Aeris's church. I can believe that with the 25 minute showing since his bandages were there and Tifa and Marlene comment on it. But who knows. I'm just gonna wait until I see for myself.
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More proof! and now frm the official site !

ff7ac.net translated their bios..

http://ff7ac.net/translation/english/cloud.jpg
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HAAAAAAA!!!!!! B) TAKE THAT CLOTIS!!!!!! :lol: I KNEW he wasn't shacked up with Tifa!

"Now he refuses to associate himself with other people and lives a solitary life". PWNED!!!!!!! :lol:
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