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| 5thwheeler | Feb 10 2006, 05:08 PM Post #91 |
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Not always, documentaries and off beat films such as "Capote"... "Good night and good luck"... and "Brokeback mountain" usually don't make the big buck. Most big buck films appeal to the red state folks with medium to low intelligence. 
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History 101: When a popular myth is believed to be factual, teach the myth. Its not possible to underestimate the intelligence of the voting populous. Hummm, after seeing the results of the 06 election, I may have to modify my perception of the voting populous and refer to them as "Late Bloomers". 
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| TexasShadow | Feb 10 2006, 05:09 PM Post #92 |
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I've heard about a couple of places refusing to show the movie.... in Utah and someplace in Arkansas? maybe. Anyway, it was only a couple of places and I didn't hear anything more about it. |
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| 5thwheeler | Feb 10 2006, 05:17 PM Post #93 |
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I guess you didn't know that Coeurdalene is a small city in a state called Idaho. Visit it some time, you may like the place. White supremacist groups gathering Moscow, ID Idaho House backs gay marriage ban Amendment - The Senate still needs to act on a proposed change to the state's Constitution Tuesday, February 07, 2006 ANNE WALLACE ALLEN BOISE -- The Idaho House of Representatives voted Monday to approve a proposed constitutional amendment that would ban same-sex marriage in Idaho. "You cannot make people moral by legislation," the sponsor of the measure, Rep. Lawerence Denney, R-Midvale, told his colleagues on the House floor. "But all of our social laws are legislated morality. Laws against murder and rape, robbery and incest, are all social laws. These laws are boundaries that we as a society say must not be crossed. "If we don't set boundaries, and let everyone do what is right in their own eyes, we lose our entire structure; we have chaos." Denney's proposal provides that "a marriage between a man and a woman is the only domestic legal union that shall be valid or recognized" in Idaho. To be placed on the ballot in November, it must win approval from two-thirds of the House and the Senate. It won that easily Monday in the House on a 53-17 vote. Opponents of the measure have argued it is not necessary because state law already defines marriage as being between a man and a woman. "What is the problem we're trying to solve?" said Rep. Shirley Ringo, D-Moscow. "Some people are gay. These folks have every right to be happy. We don't need to make their lives more difficult." Supporters say the amendment would prevent judges' overturning that law and would protect children and families. "The notion that we would develop public policy that would recognize same-sex marriage, or worse yet establish it through an activist court, would ignore that growing body of evidence that shows how important it is to have a man and a woman involved in a child's life for proper development," said Rep. Bill Sali, R-Kuna. This year marks the third go-round for same-sex marriage in the Idaho Legislature. A similar proposal passed a Senate committee last year but failed to win the two-thirds majority in the full Senate. The year before, the measure died in a Senate committee after it passed the House. Gay-rights advocates and other opponents of Denney's measure expected it to win the necessary votes in the House. But representatives against the measure still asked their colleagues not to approve it. "Many of you have come to me and apologized for your intent to vote yes on this amendment," said Rep. Nicole LeFavour, D-Boise and the Legislature's only openly gay member. "I would ask instead perhaps this day that you consider making that apology to those people in your districts who will be directly impacted by this amendment. You might not even know them . . . many gays and lesbians live invisibly out of the need to protect their jobs, their families, their homes." Rep. Mike Mitchell, D-Lewiston, told his colleagues that before he set off for Boise in January, his constituents asked him to focus on property taxes, dealing with sexual predators and trying to solve the problem of methamphetamine use. "Not one person asked me to come down here and support this proposal that's before us," Mitchell said. "Keep in mind why we were sent here; this wasn't the key issue." The proposed amendment probably will be assigned to a Senate committee. If it passes that committee, it will go before the full Senate |
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History 101: When a popular myth is believed to be factual, teach the myth. Its not possible to underestimate the intelligence of the voting populous. Hummm, after seeing the results of the 06 election, I may have to modify my perception of the voting populous and refer to them as "Late Bloomers".
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| spikefish | Feb 10 2006, 06:01 PM Post #94 |
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"5th, I suppose you live in an "enlightened" place? Please sight an example where a movie was prohibited? Who are the, "they", that prohibit the showing of a movie? City and state required." _____________________________________________________________ Would still like location where a movie was prohibited. You stated the following: "I wonder if they even allow the film to be shown in this place" How about a location of a film being prohibited???? |
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| 5thwheeler | Feb 10 2006, 06:09 PM Post #95 |
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Some folks just don't get it, nor can they understand that saying "I wonder if they even allow the film to be shown in this place" is not stating a fact.
 Amazing, simply amazing... Maybe... just maybe, Webster can help you understand the meaning of the word "wonder". Naaa.... Main Entry: 2wonder Function: verb Inflected Form(s): won·dered; won·der·ing /-d(&-)ri[ng]/ intransitive senses 1 a : to be in a state of wonder b : to feel surprise 2 : to feel curiosity or doubt transitive senses : to be curious or in doubt about - won·der·er /-d&r-&r/ noun |
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History 101: When a popular myth is believed to be factual, teach the myth. Its not possible to underestimate the intelligence of the voting populous. Hummm, after seeing the results of the 06 election, I may have to modify my perception of the voting populous and refer to them as "Late Bloomers".
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| passinthru | Feb 10 2006, 06:10 PM Post #96 |
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Thirty years ago I passed through Big Spring and stopped for dinner at a cafe. It struck me as a conservative town, not a place that would have nor want a diverse group of people. Not unlike a dozen other small conservative towns I've been through at one time or another. Folkston, GA struck me the same way; when three of my friends stopped at a cafe there with my wife and I (we were all riding motorcycles) a lady sitting near the door commented that if the cafe wanted any kind of reputation at all, it wouldn't allow people like us in there. We being a group the included a retired GM of a publicly traded company, a nurse, a CPA, a parts manager, and a business owner; a pretty bad group overall. Same was true of a visit to Hayesville, NC. After spending an hour or two hanging out at the general store, I had the distinct feeling that the community wasn't real open to diversity. Again, not much to judge a community on, but first impressions... Not the places that I would feel comfortable sitting down at the counter and exclaiming what a thought provoking movie Brokeback Mountain was. Again Spike, not fair nor a very accurate way of sizing up a place, and in the case of Big Spring, a long time ago. Tell me what you know of Big Spring. |
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| passinthru | Feb 10 2006, 06:14 PM Post #97 |
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Brokeback Mountain pulled |
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| 5thwheeler | Feb 10 2006, 06:29 PM Post #98 |
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Oh Jeeessss.... don't confuse him with facts! I'm still trying to help him understand the word "wonder". |
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History 101: When a popular myth is believed to be factual, teach the myth. Its not possible to underestimate the intelligence of the voting populous. Hummm, after seeing the results of the 06 election, I may have to modify my perception of the voting populous and refer to them as "Late Bloomers".
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| passinthru | Feb 10 2006, 06:36 PM Post #99 |
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two states ban movie China bans movie |
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| cmoehle | Feb 10 2006, 07:01 PM Post #100 |
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A lot of it is more subtle than banning a movie. I think that's what Bill (5th) is getting at. It's social pressure, what will people think, how will they treat me if I go see this movie. I remember back in the good old days of AtC when if you supported gay rights or same sex marriage you'd get half a dozen nasty flames about being gay yourself and condemned by God and all. Won't happen here. But it's still evident. |
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| passinthru | Feb 10 2006, 07:06 PM Post #101 |
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Isn't that the point of the movie in a way? Social pressure to not be who you are if you're... gay. Now we see pressure in places to ignore the "problem." I feel lucky to have lived in a community that is diverse and at least outwardly accepting of people's differences. |
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| 5thwheeler | Feb 10 2006, 07:06 PM Post #102 |
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"While Salt Lake City is the home base for America's conservative Mormon population, a local newspaper noted that other new movies with R-rated content, such as the marijuana-fuelled comedy Grandma's Boy and the horror movie Hostel, opened on schedule. " Double standards... i'll never understand them. |
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History 101: When a popular myth is believed to be factual, teach the myth. Its not possible to underestimate the intelligence of the voting populous. Hummm, after seeing the results of the 06 election, I may have to modify my perception of the voting populous and refer to them as "Late Bloomers".
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| 5thwheeler | Feb 10 2006, 07:11 PM Post #103 |
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Bingo! I grew up in a town with less then 1,000 people, and I have seen what a town without pity can do. Commie hunting was all the rage back then, calling people "pinkos" made it so. Not good! |
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History 101: When a popular myth is believed to be factual, teach the myth. Its not possible to underestimate the intelligence of the voting populous. Hummm, after seeing the results of the 06 election, I may have to modify my perception of the voting populous and refer to them as "Late Bloomers".
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| spikefish | Feb 10 2006, 07:30 PM Post #104 |
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I still do not see any "banning." An economical decision does not constitute banning. Is there ANYPLACE in the USA that one is prohibited from seeing the movie? SIMPLE! I am awaiting the locations of such prohibitions (exclude outside the USA). Not economic or social pressures, I mean prohibition or banning of the movie. |
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| cmoehle | Feb 10 2006, 07:37 PM Post #105 |
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But that's the point, Spike. |
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