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Brokeback Mountain; Warning: Story Line Revealed
Topic Started: Feb 1 2006, 03:46 PM (2,186 Views)
5thwheeler
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passinthru
Feb 8 2006, 02:15 PM
Sorry Frankjake; didn't mean to get off subject.  I was thinking that with a film like Passion, that is aimed directly at the heart of Christianity, garnered interest from at best 50% of the Christian population.  Brokeback Mountain, for being touted by some as only a movie about gays, garnered interest from a considerably larger base than just the gay population.  Not apples to apples, but a fair comparison.  I may be forced to go see Brokeback, just because the more I hear about it, the more I think it may deserve the awards it has recieved.

"I may be forced to go see Brokeback, just because the more I hear about it, the more I think it may deserve the awards it has recieved."

Good for you! That way you can judge for yourself.

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Its not possible to underestimate the intelligence of the voting populous.

Hummm, after seeing the results of the 06 election, I may have to modify my perception of the voting populous and refer to them as "Late Bloomers".

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Frankjake
Feb 8 2006, 10:39 PM
I mentioned that I know a lot of gay people, both men and women. Most have been married and some even have children.

Wouldn't this be a case of bisexuals showing a homosexual preference? Those who are truely gay don't engage in serious hetrosexuality. Maybe a queston of symantics, but I think engaging in a homosexual relationship does not necessarrily qualify one as being, "gay" in the true sense of the definition.

I would agree with the Ellen comments. Tremendous personality, charm and talent, but she tried to push an agenda instead of entertain which she does best.

Perhaps the success of Will and Grace is because it is about male homosexuals. For some reason people have always found that amusing (the limp wristed flaming impersonations). This has been true for years (ie; Jack Benny, Harvey Korman on Carol Burnett etc.).
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Stoney
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QUOTE (Frankjake @ Feb 8 2006, 10:39 PM)
I mentioned that I know a lot of gay people, both men and women. Most have been married and some even have children.

Wouldn't this be a case of bisexuals showing a homosexual preference? Those who are truely gay don't engage in serious hetrosexuality. Maybe a queston of symantics, but I think engaging in a homosexual relationship does not necessarrily qualify one as being, "gay" in the true sense of the definition.


Actually not, at least always. I'm familiar with two marraiges broken up with children where a partner learned that they were not happy in a hetrosexual relationship. My thought is they tried because of peer pressure..
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Frankjake
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I agree with Stoney.

The people I know that are now gay but were married did it because it was expected and the "thing" to do as far as what they were taught growing. No one is taught to be gay. And it's certainly not a choice as so many think it is.

Some people are repulsed by the idea of having sex with the same gender. Gay people feel the same way about having sex with opposite gender. Put yourself in their shoes.

Personally I think people who claim to be bisexual just like sex period, not matter who it's with. Gay people want to have sex with the same gender and straight people want to have sex with the opposite gender. It's doesn't get much more complicated than that. No one has to like it, but it's something that does go on out there. And if I remember correctly, isn't about 20% of the country is gay?
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And if I remember correctly, isn't about 20% of the country is gay?


My short search of the internet found estimates from 1 1/2% to 10% of the population.

I also agree with Stoney; one gay guy I know dated women for several years but after getting and beating cancer, a life changing event, he accepted his homosexuality and soon found a partner who he has been with for nearly 15 years. He had tried to be someone he wasn't to fit into both family and society. What I found interesting was that the brothers who had worried and cried over him in the hospital wanted nothing to do with him when he told them he was gay; over the years that has changed, and they accept him as their brother again.
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spikefish
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"isn't about 20% of the country is gay?"

Where in the heck did this figure come from? The highest figure I have ever seen is the Kinsey number of 10%, and that report is completely dis-credited. A more accurate figure of <2% is generally accepted, the CDC says 2.3%.
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It is amazing how much free press this movie is getting, but still has not reached block buster status. I guess people don't like cowboy movies these days ;)
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Feb 10 2006, 09:31 AM
It is amazing how much free press this movie is getting, but still has not reached block buster status. I guess people don't like cowboy movies these days ;)

It will do better when its released on DVD. I know one thing, if I lived in a small town packed full of redneck busybodies, I wouldn't go near a theater playing this movie.
History 101: When a popular myth is believed to be factual, teach the myth.

Its not possible to underestimate the intelligence of the voting populous.

Hummm, after seeing the results of the 06 election, I may have to modify my perception of the voting populous and refer to them as "Late Bloomers".

:ohmy:
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spikefish
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Why wouldn't you go near a theatre showing this movie in a small town full of "redneck busybodies"? Better yet, name a town such as you described.
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Big Spring Texas came to mind, but I haven't been there in 30 years.
I found a link to Big Spring and an article about the movie, but didn't want to register to read it; they may accept it with open hearts.

Here's another link that suggests that the movie is just now moving into the "red" states.

Brokeback moves into middle America
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spikefish
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Not the Big Spring I knew, and know. Pretty darn big brush you use.

I really do not care how the movie sells in any state, red or blue. The red/blue state description should be put to rest when used to convey a state's citizens proclivities. I suppose Florida is a red state? ~400 vote difference out of millions colors the whole state?
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The article I linked uses the "red" state description:
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Compare ‘‘Brokeback’s’’ 269 screens to ‘‘Narnia’s’’ 3,583 and you get some idea of the apples-and-oranges nature of the box office race. Where you can’t cast a stone without hitting a theater that shows ‘‘Narnia’’ and ‘‘Kong’’ (at 3,627 screens and counting), ‘‘Brokeback’’ is treading slowly into Red State America. But as Dergarabedian suggests, the early returns have been positive. When ‘‘Brokeback’’ opened in mid-December at the Cinemark Legacy 24 in Plano, Texas, it was the third-highest grosser in the multiplex.



As far as Big Spring, do you mean they would or wouldn't accept it with open hearts when you said
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Not the Big Spring I knew, and know.
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from the info I've gathered here, it's a real tear jerker, so it will probably do ok in most areas. not a huge blockbuster, but making $$, and that's really what it's all about.
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I wonder if they even allow the film to be shown in this place
History 101: When a popular myth is believed to be factual, teach the myth.

Its not possible to underestimate the intelligence of the voting populous.

Hummm, after seeing the results of the 06 election, I may have to modify my perception of the voting populous and refer to them as "Late Bloomers".

:ohmy:
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spikefish
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5th,

I suppose you live in an "enlightened" place? Please sight an example where a movie was prohibited? Who are the, "they", that prohibit the showing of a movie? City and state required.

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Passin,

I really do not know who are the, "they", in Big Spring, you are referring to. What does, "welcome with open hearts" mean?
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