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Brokeback Mountain; Warning: Story Line Revealed
Topic Started: Feb 1 2006, 03:46 PM (2,188 Views)
cmoehle
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Perhaps the greatest story ever told. But awards tend to go to the telling, not to the tale--or at least that's what I'm trying to say. A good storyteller can bring a bad story to life, a bad one, kill it and the audience. :yawn:

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Heather
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The Passion of Christ got what it deserved... absolutely nothing. The Passion of Christ was a sadistic horror flick with a 2000 year old story line, and absolutely no redeeming value. Plus, the abomination called the Passion of Christ was a foreign film and ineligible.

On the other hand, Brokeback Mountain is not your standard Hollywood shoot-um up Cowboy film as some think, its a tragic love story about a love denied by hatred, and insensitivity of a society that hasn't a clue what the words "Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" in our Declaration of Independence really mean.


What a wonderful post, 5th! Thank you, thank you, thank you! :clap:

What he said..... everyone? Hello!. It isn't even a story about gay people. It is a story about love.
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And all the time I thought it was about a couple of cowboy queers.
Something instead of Nothing?

"I find it quite improbable that such order came out of chaos. There has to be some organizing principle.
God to me is a mystery but is the explanation for the miracle of existence, why there is something instead of nothing."
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And all the time I thought it was about a couple of cowboy queers.


that's SHEEPHERDERS, pardner :pistols: :cowboy:

and for hollywood, that is ART!!!! :floorrollin: :floorrollin: :floorrollin:
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Used to be a sheepherder just north of Dallas; had quite a spread. He developed it into what is now known as North Dallas. Texans have heard of Caruth; his name is on a lot of buildings in the area.
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It will win many oscars because that's the mindset of those people in Hollywood. Doesn't matter that it is bombing at the box office. If the public could vote it wouldn't even get a mention.

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"I would have been really happy with $6 million," said Focus' head of distribution, Jack Foley. "Our testing showed that [Something New] was favored very intensely by the African-American community. We did put it out there in suburban situations across the country, hoping it would crossover into other cultural categories, but it was firing on one cylinder [demographically]. I always hoped it could cross over to women everywhere."


Focus also had the leading horse in the Oscar race, Brokeback Mountain. Going into the weekend, though, the group of Best Picture nominees were collectively the least popular with audiences on record, with two barely over $50 million at announcement time last Tuesday—Crash and Brokeback Mountain. It's the second year in a row that the Academy's selections diverged wildly from the public's, and the resulting boost did little to assuage the Oscar's continued wane.


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Something instead of Nothing?

"I find it quite improbable that such order came out of chaos. There has to be some organizing principle.
God to me is a mystery but is the explanation for the miracle of existence, why there is something instead of nothing."
Alan Sandage

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another slant
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With $60.1M in its purse, Brokeback is the highest-grossing film ever in the four-year history of Focus Features and is the second biggest grosser for the company when including releases from other distributors that were folded into it over the years including USA Films, Universal Focus, October Films, and Gramercy. Only 2000's Traffic, which was a high-profile Oscar contender taking home four statues, performed better taking in $124.1M for USA Films.


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Foley expects Brokeback Mountain to climb past $80 million at least and more if it wins Best Picture. "[$100 million] always necessitated a win," Foley said.


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"I would have been really happy with $6 million," said Focus' head of distribution, Jack Foley. "Our testing showed that [Something New] was favored very intensely by the African-American community. We did put it out there in suburban situations across the country, hoping it would crossover into other cultural categories, but it was firing on one cylinder [demographically]. I always hoped it could cross over to women everywhere."
("Something New" is a film that has nothing to do with "Brokeback Mountain.") :redcard:
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That was part of the article to show how this company thinks.

Brokeback mountain hasn't made $80 million yet. It could if it wins the Best Picture Award. Then people would go see it to see what it is but is id dying out already and it's only hope is to win.

Focus is not one of the major groups. $60 million is a lot of money for them but pales in comparison to a real movie.

When a Stranger Calls made $21 million the first weekend and it was Super Bowl weekend at that. It is a grade B horror movie as well.

Walk the line isn't even a nominee and it has made $100.6 million in only 80 days and is still going. Brokeback mountain has been out for about the same amount of time.

Shrek 2 made $108 million on opening weekend and now sits domestically at $441 million.

Even Godzilla made $44 million on opening weekend and has grossed $136 million.

I hate to even mention Spider Man. It made $114.8 million opening weekend and now sits at $403 million just domestically.

Let's face it, it's a dumb movie and the public won't go see it. So far it has just been curiosity but I still say very few people want to see a couple of queer cowboys or sheepherders. Maybe their own kind can go see it, there are about 2 million of them, that would help the box office. In fact they're probably the ones who got it where it is already.
Something instead of Nothing?

"I find it quite improbable that such order came out of chaos. There has to be some organizing principle.
God to me is a mystery but is the explanation for the miracle of existence, why there is something instead of nothing."
Alan Sandage

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Wellp-- i suppose if a gay cowboy movie is art and is worthy of awards then I guess they will have a sequel about gay indians--- it is only fair and could make some money ;)
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Some of you aren't against the movie, just against gays.

"Maybe their own kind can go see it"

Thought it was hate the sin and not the sinner?
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Feb 6 2006, 05:53 PM
Some consider the Passion of Christ a love story also. Selfless love. Sacrifice. the violence and gore in it is not to be the attraction( like in slasher flicks etc), but to show the sacrifice made on our behalf, willingly. Selfless love .

Hatred and denied love? This is the original.

Two hours of nothing but whippings and flesh being torn off of Christs body is not a love story in any sane mans eyes. The Passion of Christ is nothing more then a circus side show based on nothing more then the sick mind of old "blood and guts Gibson". What amazed me most were the people munching on pop corn, peanuts, and soda pop as they watched that abomination. Wow, if one has to watch that crap to get religion then something is very wrong.
History 101: When a popular myth is believed to be factual, teach the myth.

Its not possible to underestimate the intelligence of the voting populous.

Hummm, after seeing the results of the 06 election, I may have to modify my perception of the voting populous and refer to them as "Late Bloomers".

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Two hours of nothing but whippings and flesh being torn off of Christs body is not a love story in any sane mans eyes. The Passion of Christ is nothing more then a circus side show based on nothing more then the sick mind of old "blood and guts Gibson". What amazed me most were the people munching on pop corn, peanuts, and soda pop as they watched that abomination. Wow, if one has to watch that crap to get religion then something is very wrong.


I agree, somewhat, though not with your intensity.
However, what's the difference between watching a bunch of guys bash and bruise and bloody each other at a pro football game and watching Christ get tortured and killed?
Then there are: chicken fights, dog fights, people fights(men and women), and then Hollywood gives us blood and guts splashed all over the place on a steady diet.

Says something about human nature, doncha think?
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Yup!
History 101: When a popular myth is believed to be factual, teach the myth.

Its not possible to underestimate the intelligence of the voting populous.

Hummm, after seeing the results of the 06 election, I may have to modify my perception of the voting populous and refer to them as "Late Bloomers".

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cmoehle
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But some prefer that to a love story between a couple sheepherders.
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Wow, if one has to watch that crap to get religion then something is very wrong.


Apparently, it didn't have much affect. Interesting that so few Christians actually went to see it in relation to the number of christians in America and Europe.

Passion of Christ had little evangelical effect

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The poll also determined that the film, which portrayed the final 12 hours of the life of Jesus, failed to have an impact on people’s determination to engage in evangelism, with less than one-half of one percent of the audience saying they were motivated to be more active in sharing their faith in Christ with others as a result of having seen the movie.
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