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| First Abortion Case Under Roberts | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Oct 18 2005, 04:56 AM (98 Views) | |
| cmoehle | Oct 18 2005, 04:56 AM Post #1 |
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The Court without published opinion refused to bar court-ordered transport of an inmate to an abortion clinic. Missouri recently passed law taxes couldn't be used to support abortion. State wants to discourage abortion, but failed to show irreparable harm. Missouri has a prison policy of transporting inmates in cases of medical necessity. "Roe", now 16-17 weeks preganant, has been in court for 7 weeks. I can agree the state should not fund abortion, but in cases of medical necessity the woman's health if not life must also be valued. Wonder if this neutrality is a precedent for the Roberts Court. (sources) |
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| Jelly Bean | Oct 18 2005, 05:33 AM Post #2 |
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I'm confused...Were you not arguing before in another thread that ROE had nothing to do with abortion? |
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| Jelly Bean | Oct 18 2005, 05:37 AM Post #3 |
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weird they would use the name ROE again in regards to this supreme court deal...and it has to do with ABORTION
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| cmoehle | Oct 18 2005, 05:40 AM Post #4 |
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Yes, you're confused. "Roe" is a name the state or press gave this woman to protect her identity. Thanks for repeating the salient points of the case with the cut'n'paste. What do you think about this Court case? |
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| Jelly Bean | Oct 18 2005, 06:08 AM Post #5 |
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So, do they use the name "ROE" for every privacy case or just abortion privacy cases? Like when someone is killed, they use Jane Doe, if no name yet? So are there a lot of Roe's or is this just the second one ever? What do I think of the court case? I think it is typical that we are not obeying a states decision and going back to the supremes, when we don't like decisions. |
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| TexasShadow | Oct 18 2005, 09:00 AM Post #6 |
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as long as women have a constitutional (fed) right to abortion on demand, then they can get them in any state...... however, I don't think that taxpayers should have to pay for them UNLESS they are really medically justifiable. If the lady in question wants one, she should have to pay the whole cost of it, including transportation to and from the prison. The prison, of course, must allow her to travel to and from the clinic. If they want her escorted by guards, the prison must pay for that part of it. |
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| campingken | Oct 18 2005, 10:41 AM Post #7 |
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As a taxpayer I would MUCH rather pay for an inmates abortion then what it will cost to raise her kid. The last I checked it costs about $35,000 a year to house an inmate and the cells cost $60,000 EACH to build. The sad truth is that kids with crooks for parents ususally end up following in their footsteps. Ken Sequim |
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| cmoehle | Oct 18 2005, 10:53 AM Post #8 |
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Jelly "I think it is typical that we are not obeying a states decision and going back to the supremes, when we don't like decisions." Would you say so had they found differently? Jane "as long as women have a constitutional (fed) right to abortion on demand" What country is this? Not the US. Dysphemism is great for reframing but in this case we have medical necessity, be it life or health, as determined by a physician, in the first trimester. That's fairly restricted, and not abortion on demand. I do agree on the cost, she not Missourians should pay for it. Though Ken raises an interesting argument against the cost of what could be seen as obstinance. |
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| Jelly Bean | Oct 18 2005, 11:13 AM Post #9 |
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yes...and I have! |
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| cmoehle | Oct 18 2005, 11:40 AM Post #10 |
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Factual correction: Earlier said "be it life or health". Wrong. Missouri law would pay for it if it involved the woman's life, just not for reasons of health. Once again the issue is health, the state's refusal to recognize any health exception. |
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| Jelly Bean | Oct 18 2005, 11:42 AM Post #11 |
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I wonder which health exceptions would be acceptable? What would you find acceptable chris? Health-wise? |
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| roscoe | Oct 18 2005, 12:18 PM Post #12 |
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Maybe Sheriff joe would rather build a nursery. I'm sure the ACLU will help him design it. |
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| cmoehle | Oct 18 2005, 04:59 PM Post #13 |
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Chris - San Antonio TX
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Bone Malignancies, Brain Tumor, Breast Cancer , Cervical Cancer, Hepatocellular Carcinoma, Hodgkin's Disease, Leukemia, Lung Cancer, Malignant Melanoma, Non-Hodgkin's Lymphoma, Ovarian Tumors, Thyroid Cancer are Specific cancers in pregnancy that should be considered. Preeclampsia. Gestational diabetes? I can' really say as I am not a physician. |
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