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Laura Bush, Sexism, And Liberal Left-wingers
Topic Started: Oct 12 2005, 04:57 AM (121 Views)
cmoehle
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Chris - San Antonio TX
Laura has said some Miers critics may be motivated by sexism.

A Bush adviser, Ed Gillespie, raised the sexism issue in a private meeting last week.

Neocon William Kristol says Laura suggestion is "obviously ridiculous" and indicative of a flailing White House strategy. "It is striking to me they are spending less time explaining the merits of Harriet Miers and more time . . . using liberal talking points to criticize the critics," he said. "I think it is going to backfire."

Fiscal conservative Jonah Goldberg says her sexism charge "is horribly disappointing and the sort of thing I normally expect from left-wingers."

(sources)


This raises some interesting questions.

Is Laura right? Is some of the right-wing criticism motivated by sexism?

Or are George and Laura liberal left-wingers?

Or has the epithet taken on new meaning?

Or should Laura just shut up and like a good wife keep her place behind George?
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corky52
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Lack of valid reasons for support of the candidate? Emotional appeal?
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roz
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Criticism of Miers has nothing to do with sexism and everything
to do with competence..............just this Left Winger's opinion
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cmoehle
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Chris - San Antonio TX
In what ways is she incompetent?
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5thwheeler
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cmoehle
Oct 12 2005, 11:23 AM
In what ways is she incompetent?

Lets start with the fact that she never was a Judge, but that being said, not one first term president was ever president. :ohmy:
History 101: When a popular myth is believed to be factual, teach the myth.

Its not possible to underestimate the intelligence of the voting populous.

Hummm, after seeing the results of the 06 election, I may have to modify my perception of the voting populous and refer to them as "Late Bloomers".

:ohmy:
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Frank - Gainesville, Florida
The fact she has a limited history available for examination, is part of the problem. Un-educated perceptions that all supreme court justice have to have been judges prior to their supreme court appointments are another problem. (Just not true as many including Earl Warren were never judges, and others weren't even lawyers) Disappointment on the right than someone with more conservative credentials wasn't choosen yet another.

I wasn't happy about her nomination, but I would like to hear her before the committee, and even better I would like to hear the questions asked because they will be more revealing than her answers.
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roz
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Miers may be competent as Bush's personal lawyer but not for the SC.
She has no experience as a judge (of ANY kind). Bush's defense of his
nomination is "Trust Me". "Trust Me" from Bush won't cut it.

Just the fact that she is close to Bush and has been his attorney for 20 years
makes her a poor choice. There should be a separation of powers there,
alto I'm aware that "should be" with this administration means nothing. :floorrollin:

It just seems to me that her main qualification is that she is a Bush
insider and her nomination is nothing more than Bush stacking SC for
the far right and his agenda. She lacks the professional qualifications
for SC. Just another Bush crony....
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cmoehle
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Chris - San Antonio TX
roz, having been a judge is not a qualification, as Frank points out, many a great Supreme Court Justice was neither judge nor lawyer prior to sitting on the bench.

The "Trust me" is to the socio- and theo-cons.

Most presidents nominate those close enough to them to know their judicual philosophy. Sometimes that turns out to be a mistake like LBJ nominating his buddy Fortas. Her having worked long with Bush is not a disqualification.

I think you judge her on the merit of pundits and partisans.
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tomdrobin
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I think the sexism comment was inappropriate. May have been a political ploy to shame the opposition, but I don't think anyone takes it seriously. It seems to me the right and left wingers who would have SC justices in their corner are complaining the loudest. I think she will be a minimalist (per previous survey thread), and that IMO is a good thing.
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campingken
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Anybody who says that Bush is the smartest man she ever met doesn't get out much......

Ken
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5thwheeler
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campingken
Oct 13 2005, 12:37 PM
Anybody who says that Bush is the smartest man she ever met doesn't get out much......

Ken

Good point!

Sounds like she is just kissing the bosses ass. Maybe she's just like Monica Lewinsky and would do or say anything to keep her job. Just what we need on the SC.
History 101: When a popular myth is believed to be factual, teach the myth.

Its not possible to underestimate the intelligence of the voting populous.

Hummm, after seeing the results of the 06 election, I may have to modify my perception of the voting populous and refer to them as "Late Bloomers".

:ohmy:
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cmoehle
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Chris - San Antonio TX
TOm, Peggy Noonan says similar in Fasten Your Beltway: It's going to be a bumpy ride.:
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Can this marriage be saved? George W. Bush feels dissed and unappreciated: How could you not back me? Conservatives feel dissed and unappreciated: How could you attack me? Both sides are toe to toe. One senses that the critics will gain, as they've been gaining, and that the White House is on the losing side. If the administration had a compelling rationale for Harriet Miers's nomination, they would have made it. Simply going at their critics was not only destructive, it signaled an emptiness in their arsenal. If they had a case they'd have made it. "You're a sexist snob" isn't a case; it's an insult, one that manages in this case to be both startling and boring.


It was a mistake she argues:
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An essential White House mistake--really a key and historic one--was in turning on its critics with such idiotic ferocity. "My way or the highway" is getting old. "Please listen to us and try to see it our way or we'll have to kill you," is getting old. Sending Laura Bush out to make her first mistake as first lady, agreeing with Matt Lauer that sexism is probably part of the reason for opposition to Ms. Miers, was embarrassingly inept and only served to dim some of the power of this extraordinary resource.


She offers some solutions:
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Is there a way out for the White House? Yes. Change plans at LaGuardia. Remember the wisdom of New York's Mayor Fiorello LaGuardia, who said, "I don't make a lot of mistakes but when I do it's a beaut!"? The Miers pick was a mistake. The best way to change the story is to change the story....How can the White House climb down after 10 days of insisting Ms. Miers is the one? Mmmmm, sometimes you don't climb down. Sometime you just let gravity do what it's doing. You drop like an apple. Three days of silence and then the trip to LaGuardia.


Problem is Bush is not known to admit his mistakes. Republican stalwarts have always admired this, now they will find fault with it.
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roscoe
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Sounds like the old sinking ship trick. These Bozo's want to get re-elected and their captain is watering his palm plant too much.
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bikemanb
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Sounds like the old sinking ship trick. These Bozo's want to get re-elected and their captain is watering his palm plant too much.


:floorrollin: :floorrollin:

These are the politicians that are morally superior to those Democrats who wold do anything to stay in office, could not possibly be true.

For the record, I have disdain for most Reps and Dems that fall into the professional politicians classification.
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