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| TexasShadow | Oct 17 2005, 09:16 PM Post #106 |
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signing off from this thread. it's like history, just repeating itself.
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| Jelly Bean | Oct 18 2005, 01:59 AM Post #107 |
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hey chris, I like the slave rundown...where did you get the quotes? DO you have a link for that, or is it info you have from your memory ? I would love to talk more slavery maybe even do a whole other new thread. How slavery relates to homosexuality I think I understand the point you are making, I guess, is it that people change their minds in regards to slavery? There were slaves in the Bible, and even slaves I believe today...it was whether men own slaves...etc...lets do that new thread! As far as people changing their mind about homosexuality, I don't see an example in the Bible where folks felt differently about it, do you have a reference in the Bible that says that people changed their minds about homosexuality? If it is because we don't punish anymore (stone) like in leviticus, I already have explained to you that the punishment for all SINS is hell now, if we don't repent...that covers homosexuality, adultery...a whole slew of things. Just because Christ died and forgives us, doesn't give us free reigns to now say that things that were sins, are no longer that way. |
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| cmoehle | Oct 18 2005, 04:25 AM Post #108 |
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Thanks, Jane, enjoyed the exchange. Jelly, it just says some see the error of their ways sooner, and for some it takes a long time to learn. I could repeat pretty much the same with full quotes and references regarding the difficult struggle women had. Already gave a reference where Christ dimissed all other commandments for love thy neighbor. |
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Politics is the art of achieving the maximum amount of freedom for individuals that is consistent with the maintenance of social order. --Barry Goldwater | |
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| Jelly Bean | Oct 18 2005, 05:29 AM Post #109 |
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But chris, Christ didn't just say "love thy neighbor"...and he specifically said he didn't come to destroy the law or the prophets...but to "fullfill" them, and he said they were all based in Love they neighbor, AND Love God with all your mind heart and soul. To just say that, Jesus said "love thy neighbor", and "dismissed" everything else, is an error. Christ also said, you have heard in the old no adultery...but I say in the new....if you even have lust in your heart, you have committed adultery.... He didn't do away with the adultery law, he let us know that our hearts need to be changed and circumcised for us to be able to do the behaviors pleasing to God, and NOT do the behaviors which he abhores. |
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| cmoehle | Oct 18 2005, 05:36 AM Post #110 |
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Christ did not say "love thy neighbor"??? Romans 13:7 Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honor to whom honor. 8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law. 9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. 10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbor: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law. To say "To just say that, Jesus said "love thy neighbor", and "dismissed" everything else, is an error. " is an error. Like Jane, I'm signing off. I've made my point. |
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| Jelly Bean | Oct 18 2005, 05:45 AM Post #111 |
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You are not reading me correctly chris, and if you want to sign off, then go right on ahead. I did NOT say that Christ didn't say it...I said that he didn't "Just" say that. Meaning he said "More". Meaning it wasn't "just" what he said alone. Meaning there is more to it than that...meaning... Did you really read me to say that Christ didn't say love they neighbor? Could you possible belive that I don't believe he said that? What I don't believe is what YOU SAID: Which was that "he said love they neighbor and then dismissed all the other commandments." He did NOT dismiss them, and in fact purposely said he was not destroying the laws or the prophets...and I already pasted in other sections where he said not one jot or tittle would be removed of the law and the prophets till the end of the world... |
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| Jelly Bean | Oct 18 2005, 05:49 AM Post #112 |
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what Christ said:
NOTE: On these 2 commandments hang ALL the law and the prophets |
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signing off from this thread. it's like history, just repeating itself.





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