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Is The Worm Turning?
Topic Started: Oct 5 2005, 11:35 PM (284 Views)
pentax
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Kamloops - BC Interior
Have seen some quite right-wing folks having serious issues with President Bush... just the last week or two. A couple strong Cons on Breach, in fact, and one other Forum, that you may not know of - It's mostly Canadians, but with a few Americans. One quote was "He's lost me now." Another was along the lines of the RNC is passing the hat, "I hope it stays empty!"

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corky52
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Between not being very intelligent and trying to please to many masters with different agendas, somebody has to get left out.
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kajtek1
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You guys speak strange language.
Personally, I don't blame GW for what he is.
But I blame voters for letting him became/stay President.
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Jelly Bean
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I'm still hoping ten...but I know after reading a certain article, it bummed me out on his last supreme pic, but I know I don't have all the info, I don't KNOW her, and I will have to see how the questioning goes...and withhold judgment till then.

With that said, I was at the angel game tonight, and Arnie our governor was there, and when the guy was shown on the big Screen there was a resounding boo over the cheers! And that is in Orange County, a pretty conservative place next to some places.
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pentax
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I can't speak much for Arnie's position, but think about this for a "conservative":

- in mid-1999, after Bush had been in control for several months, the US Federal Debt was a bit over 5 Trillion; now it is almost at 8 TRILLION! IN SIX YEARS!
and much of that Foreign Debt is to people like Communist China, India, and PAKISTAN.... Geee! I sure sleep better at night.

The Federal Gov't is more bloated than anytime in HISTORY.

There are more than 800 "Generals" in the Pentagon. There is one Officer for every FIVE Non-Coms in the US Military. 1/5?????



THIS is a "conservative"????


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Jelly Bean
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mur, you got the wrong gal...I don't know much about money, I basically make it, and then spend it...hubby does all the banking.
When I think conservative, I think on social issues.
I'm not saying you are wrong or that someone shouldn't be concerned with these things..I just have never been one to do so.
Wish I had an answer for you.
I don't even know if you are right.
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cmoehle
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Hate to say I told you all so so many times.

Here's the thing though, Bush has not been dishonest, has not deceived, or betrayed. It's all been self-inflicted. Example, he has consistently said we worship the same God about Muslims, and the typical reaction is you just don't understand, he's just being PC, we know he doesn't mean that. Yeah, right.
Politics is the art of achieving the maximum amount of freedom for individuals that is consistent with the maintenance of social order.
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Jelly Bean
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huh? Some one said he was being PC? Did I say that at some time?
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buffy
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Well,
I think someone above had it right when they said the world of politics has waaaaay to many masters and few to many slaves.....that being said...

I would take a Bush that is not afraid to come out and do whats right amid continual criticism versus a "Monica Clinton" or was that "Bill Lewinsky"? Anyday of the week...

Yes, the deficit is out of this world; but then again, we havent fought a major war in 40 years, or had a natural disaster in 100 let alone 2. And btw, we've been giving aid and money to foreign countries since our country's inception; so to blame any one President (rep. or dem.) is simply a scape-goat. Doesnt mean i like it anymore than the next guy. But i've yet to see any President change it; albeit President Reagan.

I'm definitely no Bush is always right supporter; but there are issues that are more important than what resturant you can afford to eat at or how many cars you drive. We've become a country of indifference and slobs; so naturally when
someone comes along with ideals, it rocks alot of peoples' worlds.

It's amazing how quickly the tide turns when the chips are down, it would be great to see this country stand behind ONE THING and see it through. Been a long time. No wonder the world hates us, because we hate each other and they see it.
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cmoehle
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Welcome to the forum, buffy, first off!

Seems the tide is turning on the right though, the left has always hated Bush. But I wouldn't call them indifferent slobs for turning against him.

I agree, war and natural disaster account for some of the overspending leading to the current deficit, but if you look at domestic spending you will see Bush has outspent every President we have ever had.

He's a liberal spender and conservative tax cutter. Perhaps that's one too many ideals for any one person.

Still, you're right, I'd rather have Bush than Clinton, as he, imo, has restored some dignity to the office after everyone from Ike to Clinton sullied it. Still, I can think of some conservatives I'd rather see in there right now--heck, we'd be better off with Cheney.


"No wonder the world hates us, because we hate each other and they see it."

:yes: to a degree.

"it would be great to see this country stand behind ONE THING and see it through."

Now that would make a great topic, which one thing should this country stand behind, or two or three things. Great topic. Might steal it.

Again, welcome!
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5thwheeler
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kajtek1
Oct 6 2005, 12:07 AM
You guys speak strange language.
Personally, I don't blame GW for what he is.
But I blame voters for letting him became/stay President.

Don't be so hard on the voters, they were duped and lied to by president photo-op and the rest of the CON's.

Its not possible to underestimate the intelligence of the average American voter.
History 101: When a popular myth is believed to be factual, teach the myth.

Its not possible to underestimate the intelligence of the voting populous.

Hummm, after seeing the results of the 06 election, I may have to modify my perception of the voting populous and refer to them as "Late Bloomers".

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buffy
Oct 6 2005, 06:12 AM
I'm definitely no Bush is always right supporter; but there are issues that are more important than what resturant you can afford to eat at or how many cars you drive. We've become a country of indifference and slobs; so naturally when
someone comes along with ideals, it rocks alot of peoples' worlds.


Yeah, like taking our nation to war over lies and trumped up charges.

I'll take a blow job in the Whitehouse, shrinking debt, and prosperity, over war, dead American troops, deficit spending and a soon to be massive recession any day. But thats just me.
History 101: When a popular myth is believed to be factual, teach the myth.

Its not possible to underestimate the intelligence of the voting populous.

Hummm, after seeing the results of the 06 election, I may have to modify my perception of the voting populous and refer to them as "Late Bloomers".

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Fr. Mike
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My thoughts have concluded that an individual should take their energy and resources and spend it on local community issues.

The second conclussion is that regardless of what they claim to stand for--on a national level the two major parties when in power are pretty much the same. Ineffectual and have a penchant for sticking their collective noses where they don't belong.

I shamefully supported G W. Bush because I believed some of what he said and felt that he was the best choice and chance for moving our country more towards the values I hold dearly. I learned a valuable lesson and one that I will never forget.

The one person and influence we all have--is with our self.

The second but more limited influence we have is with other family members.

The third and even less influence we have is with our friends.

The fourth influence--and one we can only hope makes a difference is within our own village.

After that---the matter takes on a whole new dynamics and offers little in return for time or resources invested.

So--from now on--I'm reeling in my efforts and concentrating on the areas that I can have a say and chance at influencing.

All else is just a matter for gossip and speculation.
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The unborn have rights too.
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pentax
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Oct 6 2005, 02:03 AM
I don't even know if you are right.

I'm truly sorry that you doubt me.... I can provide links if you like; I used them to prepare the post I made.
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Fr. Mike
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quote:
"Yeah, like taking our nation to war over lies and trumped up charges."

Were you referring to the Bay of Tonkin deception by President Johnson?

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