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| Still No Word From Fox's Brit Hume | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Feb 18 2005, 01:22 PM (495 Views) | |
| jrf | Feb 18 2005, 11:08 PM Post #31 |
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Hmmmm Social tacticts vs. War tacticts Social Tacticts: Let the guilty draw to protect the needy War Tacticts: Bomb the innocent to get the guilty I am so confused over my own ideals. |
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| corky52 | Feb 18 2005, 11:11 PM Post #32 |
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BIA, You miss my point completely. Joel caught it. I vote in favor of larges and hope! |
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| BuddyIAm | Feb 18 2005, 11:14 PM Post #33 |
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No I got your point.. I was just providing some information.. Outside your point.. I thought you made your point very well On edit: Isn't the SEC checking on a few cheats.
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"The truth lies in a man's dreams... perhaps in this unhappy world of ours whose madness is better than a foolish sanity." "Facts are stupid things." - Ronald Regan "Ideas are more dangerous than guns. We don't let our people have guns. Why should we let them have ideas?" --Josef Stalin | |
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| BuddyIAm | Feb 18 2005, 11:19 PM Post #34 |
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Hume said That Roosevelt's plan included private investment programs.. That is absolutely false. Roosevelt's plan would have been GOVERNMENT CONTROLLED annuities... Period.. http://mediamatters.org/static/video/specr...00502040010.wmv |
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"The truth lies in a man's dreams... perhaps in this unhappy world of ours whose madness is better than a foolish sanity." "Facts are stupid things." - Ronald Regan "Ideas are more dangerous than guns. We don't let our people have guns. Why should we let them have ideas?" --Josef Stalin | |
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| corky52 | Feb 18 2005, 11:21 PM Post #35 |
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BIA, All systems can and will be gamed, question becomes the functioning of the system for it's intended purpose and the cost of stopping the gaming. Part of the problem is the human mind, one cheater is more important than 1000's of unseen victories. The smallness of the human mind is unbelievable! |
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| BuddyIAm | Feb 18 2005, 11:36 PM Post #36 |
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Many would call your statements socialism I call them Societal ideals.. Societies goal of course is perfection.. Which is of course impossible.. So society settles for fairness and happiness.. |
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"The truth lies in a man's dreams... perhaps in this unhappy world of ours whose madness is better than a foolish sanity." "Facts are stupid things." - Ronald Regan "Ideas are more dangerous than guns. We don't let our people have guns. Why should we let them have ideas?" --Josef Stalin | |
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| cmoehle | Feb 19 2005, 08:07 AM Post #37 |
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Socialism? Gotta luv it when terms like that are tossed about. Corky says help those who are truly needy. That is not socialism. It's compassion. Corky says implement something that prevents gaming the system. That is not socialism. It's demanding honesty. Helping those who aren't needy so they become dependent, now that begins to look like socialism, whose corrupt bureaucracy thrives on bribing people with their own money. |
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Politics is the art of achieving the maximum amount of freedom for individuals that is consistent with the maintenance of social order. --Barry Goldwater | |
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| BuddyIAm | Feb 19 2005, 09:36 AM Post #38 |
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Chris Did you miss my history lesson from the SSA history book. I guess that Bush not only doesn't read the newspaper. He doesn't read any history. That has not had a Bret Hume revision... http://www.ssa.gov/history/voluntaryannuities.html Hume said That Roosevelt's plan included private investment programs.. That is absolutely false. Roosevelt's plan would have been GOVERNMENT CONTROLLED annuities... Period.. http://mediamatters.org/static/video/specr...00502040010.wmv |
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"The truth lies in a man's dreams... perhaps in this unhappy world of ours whose madness is better than a foolish sanity." "Facts are stupid things." - Ronald Regan "Ideas are more dangerous than guns. We don't let our people have guns. Why should we let them have ideas?" --Josef Stalin | |
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| cmoehle | Feb 19 2005, 09:49 AM Post #39 |
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You got FDR wrong. You've still got Hume wrong. Hume said, his words: "government funding, quote, "ought to ultimately be supplanted by self-supporting annuity plans." Only stretch I can see there is his elision allows you to use your imagination and claim he said something by what he didn't say. Perhaps, even, that was his intent, the propensity for humans to fill in the blanks and read between the lines. Just keep in mind, it is you doing that, the filling and reading in. |
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| BuddyIAm | Feb 19 2005, 09:58 AM Post #40 |
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Hume said FDR supported a private investment account. FDR did not.. He suported government sold annuities.. As a supplement to SS.. PERIOD... That is nothing more than a secondary SS system.. Listen to the beginning of your own link.. In Hume’s own words. Forget about the FDR quotes http://mediamatters.org/static/video/specr...00502040010.wmv |
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