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Alan Keyes: Shameful Or Principled?
Topic Started: Feb 16 2005, 04:59 PM (184 Views)
MrsS
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If this was too personal, I`m really sorry. *S*


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cmoehle
Feb 17 2005, 12:31 PM
Another example of "family values"?

Rush Limbaugh Divorce Finalized

Soc cons certainly got a lock on family values, yeah, right...I mean, left.

Not fair Chris. Over 50% of marriages end in divorce. No one knows how many are leftists and how many or rightists. Most media personalities get divorced often. Most media personalities are leftists. Rush has the same pressures on his marriage that other famous people have.
Alan
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Exactly my point, Alan. This claim by some to have and represent family values is bunk.
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cmoehle
Feb 17 2005, 04:40 PM
Exactly my point, Alan. This claim by some to have and represent family values is bunk.

Wrong! Conservatives (My definition!) support family values, but may not exibit them. I want family values, so I vote for and listen to Conservatives. I also listen to Liberals (My definition!) to get their point of view...Liberals usually do not support family values.

Alan
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Bullshit. God is not a Republican (your definition of conservative). God does not choose sides.
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cmoehle
Feb 18 2005, 12:11 PM
Bullshit. God is not a Republican (your definition of conservative). God does not choose sides.

Wrong again! Family values are a set of proposed laws or the repeal of certain laws designed to benefit the traditional family. This has nothing to do with God or Christianity. It just so happens that Christians are the biggest proponents of family values.

It is illogical for you to think family values are wrong just because one of the proponents of them has problems exibiting them.
Alan
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Chris - San Antonio TX
Wrong, you pronounce judgment? Come down off your throne for a minute.

Family values are now laws? Only those that fit your definition of traditional? Or the laws we have?

I realize you don't want Christianity or God to have anything to do with it. That would not allow you to make such self-righteous claims that only Reps have family values. Is that what Jesus taught you?

Democrats are not Christian? They do not value family?

What exactly are family values based on? Thought it was love, you know, what Jesus preached.
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cmoehle
Feb 18 2005, 12:43 PM
Wrong, you pronounce judgment? Come down off your throne for a minute.

Family values are now laws? Only those that fit your definition of traditional? Or the laws we have?

I realize you don't want Christianity or God to have anything to do with it. That would not allow you to make such self-righteous claims that only Reps have family values. Is that what Jesus taught you?

Democrats are not Christian? They do not value family?

What exactly are family values based on? Thought it was love, you know, what Jesus preached.

How can you say this stuff? Where do you get this from what I am saying?

I don't have a computer in the bathroom, so I am not on my "throne".

Family Values are a set of proposed laws and revocation of laws designed to make things better for traditional families. This does not imply a political party. Its just some ideas on how to make things better for the family.

Christians typically have proposed them, but this doesn't make family values "Christian".

Show me where I said ONLY reps support family values. I said "Conservatives (My definition!) support family values". I did not say ONLY Conservatives (My definition!) support family values.
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I think you get the gist of it. What reaction do you expect from you're wrong and I'm right?

"Family Values are a set of proposed laws and revocation of laws designed to make things better for traditional families."

Apparently I don't understand that. Please translate.


If you are now clarifying you think generally conservatives and liberals share family values, fine. I hope moderates do as well.
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