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| Jesse Jackson Jr.; Time to Rally Behind Bush | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Nov 10 2004, 04:23 AM (333 Views) | |
| irongoat | Nov 10 2004, 04:23 AM Post #1 |
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Congressman Jesse Jackson Jr. had a surprising message on Tuesday for Democrats who might prefer to continue grousing over last week's election. "The election is over," the Illinois Democrat told WWRL Radio's Steve Malsberg and Karen Hunter. "George Bush is the next president of the United States and we need to rally behind the Commander in Chief and move the government and the business of the people forward. Jacksons retoric was sharper for Democrats. The Illinois Democrat said things will likely get worse for Democrats before they get better. Complete text at www.newsmax.com/malzberg |
| "In matters of style, swim with the current, In matters of principal, stand like a rock". Thomas jefferson | |
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| cmoehle | Nov 10 2004, 05:58 AM Post #2 |
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I think that's true, irongoat. All we need is a leader to unite us behind him. True on the Democrats too. They don't wake up it could be the end of the party. My desire for the rise of third parties like the Libertarians would follow closely. Then there would be a choice between tranditional, fiscal conservatism and social conservativism. Now who do you think will win that one? From Why Americans Hate Democrats "But Democrats don't seem to learn. They keep telling people what's good for them. And the people keep telling the Democrats they're wrong. In fact, this election probably concludes the critical realignment in American voting patterns that began in 1968 and resulted in the election of Richard M. Nixon. The legacy of that Democratic defeat is the nearly impregnable Republican coalition of Southern Protestants and Northern—especially Midwestern—Catholics. Voting as a result has been a fairly constant dynamic of region and religion. White men over 40 have been leading the charge with voting levers in hand as scimitars to slay nearly every Democratic messenger. They'll sacrifice better economics to protect icons and their sense of faith." They'll sacrifice better economics [fiscal conservatism] to protect icons and their sense of faith [social conservatism]. Now who do you think will win that one? |
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Politics is the art of achieving the maximum amount of freedom for individuals that is consistent with the maintenance of social order. --Barry Goldwater | |
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| Banandangees | Nov 10 2004, 08:30 AM Post #3 |
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cmoehle, Just an opinion from reading your quote. The country could probably do well from a mixture of "fiscal conservatism" and "social conservatism." It may not be as much fun for a lot of folks; but, they would probably fair pretty well. "The Democrats don't seem to learn. They keep telling people what's good for them." From that statement by Hank Sheinkoph, maybe it suggests that people (Democrats, Republican, Libertarians) get tired of and resent the D Party's leadership message that "you folks just aren't sharp enough to know how to conduct your own lives, just go out and have fun; (Michael give them a video to watch and spice it up a bit) and, don't worry, we'll take care of you." ( [whispering] "There, that should satisfy the peasants." |
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| BuddyIAm | Nov 10 2004, 12:20 PM Post #4 |
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Chris says: They don't wake up it could be the end of the party. Buddy says: The democrats win the popular vote and lose the electoral vote in one election. Then fail to defeat a war time incumbent president in another. A feat that has never been accomplished in American history.. And you some how see a problem with the Party leadership? It is not a problem of leadership. It is a problem of outside influence. Americans, both Republican and Democrat ARE Centrist in nature concerning governance. Although most Americans believe in GOD. MOST are not religious. Most would fight vehemently against any proclamation denouncing the Sunday Champaign Brunch. The following describes the true nature of the problem.. 1. Right wing conservatives have gained the support of the likes of the NEO’s, who’s concern is with economics, not faith. Any attack against a hypocrite, hiding behind a Bible, standing at the pulpit. Is going to be fruitless. Only time will expose the true nature of their actions. 2. Liberals fail to express their faith. Instead they attempt to justify their beliefs on it’s merits. That is impossible to do when engaged in such emotional topics. They are seen to be un-Godly. The sum of the above negatives equals: Faced with an impossible choice. Reality on one hand. Faith in the other. Put your faith in GOD. Go with the one that APPEARS to be the most GOD like. And pray it is not a false prophet. |
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"The truth lies in a man's dreams... perhaps in this unhappy world of ours whose madness is better than a foolish sanity." "Facts are stupid things." - Ronald Regan "Ideas are more dangerous than guns. We don't let our people have guns. Why should we let them have ideas?" --Josef Stalin | |
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| Banandangees | Nov 10 2004, 12:30 PM Post #5 |
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Buddy, I see you've been watching the video.
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| BuddyIAm | Nov 10 2004, 03:23 PM Post #6 |
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"The truth lies in a man's dreams... perhaps in this unhappy world of ours whose madness is better than a foolish sanity." "Facts are stupid things." - Ronald Regan "Ideas are more dangerous than guns. We don't let our people have guns. Why should we let them have ideas?" --Josef Stalin | |
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| cmoehle | Nov 10 2004, 05:40 PM Post #7 |
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Banan, I don't disagree with that at all other than to hold the opinion that fiscal issues are a matter of politics, issues like limited government, responsible budget, strong defense, and the like; and social issues are a matter for individuals, and the family, community and groups they belong to, to determine. |
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| cmoehle | Nov 10 2004, 05:58 PM Post #8 |
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I don't necessarily disagree with you either, though I would add some and rephrase some. |
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| BuddyIAm | Nov 10 2004, 06:27 PM Post #9 |
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You don’t have to agree. Just follow. Now leave me alone until I finish the dishes..
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"The truth lies in a man's dreams... perhaps in this unhappy world of ours whose madness is better than a foolish sanity." "Facts are stupid things." - Ronald Regan "Ideas are more dangerous than guns. We don't let our people have guns. Why should we let them have ideas?" --Josef Stalin | |
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