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| A Bit Of Humor; Concerning the Recent Election | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Nov 7 2004, 08:35 AM (372 Views) | |
| Colo_Crawdad | Nov 7 2004, 08:35 AM Post #1 |
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For an interesting look at recent election results, just click here and then click on US Election 2004 Results Listed by Average IQ. Finally, click on the picture of the elephant and the donkey directly under the statement "US Election 2004 Results Listed by Average IQ." I have a feeling there is a simpler way to do this, but sometimes I am "computer challenged." Sorry about that. |
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| cmoehle | Nov 7 2004, 09:00 AM Post #2 |
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Since it's an image, you can just post it...![]() Interesting, but wonder where she got it? Where's the data? THe study? |
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| Paul ADK | Nov 7 2004, 09:00 AM Post #3 |
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This has been kicking around for months on the internet and was made up of whole cloth. The study cited as the source did not measure IQ broken down by state and the author confirms that it would be impossible to come up with remotely like it from the data included in the report. I do think it is rather interesting that the canard is touted by the same side of the political spectrum that stoutly maintains that IQ does not count and should never be used as a predictor of potential achievement. |
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| cmoehle | Nov 7 2004, 09:04 AM Post #4 |
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Answer my own question, this post explains similar findings for 2000 election:
Only response to it says it would be better to cite avergae IQ of voters, not entire population. On edit, fixed link. |
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| cmoehle | Nov 7 2004, 09:07 AM Post #5 |
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Paul, who's touting it? Lowell, who I believe voted for Kerry, found it humorous. I, who voted for Badnarik, questioned the supporting data. |
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| Colo_Crawdad | Nov 7 2004, 09:20 AM Post #6 |
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Chris, I looked at what you did by using the "quote" function. I am slowly learning. Thanks, Lowell |
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| cmoehle | Nov 7 2004, 09:27 AM Post #7 |
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Lowell, others, see Forum Code Tags in the Help forum here. |
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| cmoehle | Nov 7 2004, 09:35 AM Post #8 |
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Paul "The study cited as the source did not measure IQ broken down by state and the author confirms that it would be impossible to come up with remotely like it from the data included in the report." The Ravens Progressive Matrices is a legitimate test. You say the "the author confirms...." The author? Do you mean the blogger? J Raven? Would you have a link, or some key words to find that statement? Categorizing and averaging results by state, if that information is provided, would be a simple task. Still not sure it says much as IQ is one thing and using it another. |
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| Paul ADK | Nov 7 2004, 03:32 PM Post #9 |
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Take a look here...My Webpage |
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| cmoehle | Nov 7 2004, 04:01 PM Post #10 |
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What I get out of that is a bunch of Reps who don't like the table and who think repeating it is a hoax and fake that it will go away. One such attempt aligns it with average incomes, insisting that's the source of the IQ averages. Another cites a study of IQs and nations, and insists that proves the state study a hoax. Another cites as perfectly believable a 60's study that mixes the red and blue states differently. It is true the author of the test and the company who sell it do not know who if anyone ever condicted such a test, but wh would they? Throughout that blog the fact the postings of it say it's a joke are sloughed off in an attempt to maintain a sense of righteousness in their anger. Too funny how Dems and Reps just keep beating up on each other. Here is the IQ and income averages per state:
And the 60's study:
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| BuddyIAm | Nov 7 2004, 04:19 PM Post #11 |
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I have a high IQ. On a scale of one to ten..
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| tomdrobin | Nov 7 2004, 07:31 PM Post #12 |
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Lets see if I'm getting the insinuation right. If you have a high IQ, then your better at or more qualified in deciding who is best to govern? Don't know if I'm buying into that one. Abstract and analytical thinking don't always = common sense. I don't think intelligence and wisdom are the same thing. Problem is many who consider themselves intellectuals are so smug in their "right" thinking, they dismiss the ability of those with less intellect to make an informed decision. Life experiences and other things are important too. |
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| cmoehle | Nov 7 2004, 07:41 PM Post #13 |
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Agreed, as I said earlier, IQ is one thing, using it another. But the irony of this remains, the Reps so quick to call it a hoax readily accept it as fact when it makes them look better--and I'm sure back in the 60s the Dems argued like Reps. |
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| BuddyIAm | Nov 7 2004, 08:19 PM Post #14 |
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My teacher said I was a 6 or a 7. Does that mean some day I will be living in Key West. |
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| tomdrobin | Nov 7 2004, 08:57 PM Post #15 |
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No, living in Key West means there is a high probability you are "one". |
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