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| Bin Ladin (seems To) Want Truce; He's also fan of Michael Moore | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Oct 30 2004, 11:21 AM (330 Views) | |
| teryt | Oct 30 2004, 11:21 AM Post #1 |
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What Bin Ladin seems to be saying below is that he's ready to call a truce. In my opinion, this is what Kerry would do - appease a monster for appearent safety.
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| teryt | Oct 30 2004, 11:28 AM Post #2 |
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Here's another good one for your review. Could much of the nation be thinking the same thing - that Kerry just doesn't have the resolve & moral outrage to deal properly with OBL? NY Times Op-Ed This makes the point that Kerry saw the oppurtunity to attack Bush over this tape: Politisizing the Bin Ladin tape How will the public see this over the weekend is the big question. This could be the big October Surprise. |
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| brewster | Oct 30 2004, 11:35 AM Post #3 |
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A thought occurs to me - The timing of this tape is most unusual. He's got to know that Americans will get their backs up, and that most think Bush would be the tougher Pres. Would that mean that deep down inside, Osama wants BUSH back in??? :stir: :stir: :stir: Gotta help his recruiting!
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| teryt | Oct 30 2004, 11:41 AM Post #4 |
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I have wondered that too. But I bet he's getting huge pressure to "get these Americans off our backs!" He does appeal directly to the American people to have a mutual truce. Then again, might be like the experience I've had with some labor unions - they need to have an enemy to fight. Hard to know. |
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| brewster | Oct 30 2004, 11:43 AM Post #5 |
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He may also consider Bush the weaker candidate re the rest of the world. With Bush's present popularity nearly everywhere else, four more years will leave the US virtually alone. |
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| cmoehle | Oct 30 2004, 12:35 PM Post #6 |
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He's learned to play our political games. |
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| TexasShadow | Oct 30 2004, 12:35 PM Post #7 |
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personally, either way, I don't like arabs trying to manipulate the american vote, and that is what osama is trying to do. |
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| cmoehle | Oct 30 2004, 12:36 PM Post #8 |
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Ayerabs? |
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| brewster | Oct 30 2004, 01:10 PM Post #9 |
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I can see your point, but look what they accomplished in Spain... Probably looks like a good bet from Osama's point of view... |
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| teryt | Oct 30 2004, 01:37 PM Post #10 |
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OBL's message was definately more "nuanced." |
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| TexasShadow | Oct 30 2004, 01:38 PM Post #11 |
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yeh <_< |
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| cmoehle | Oct 30 2004, 02:18 PM Post #12 |
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It is not personal as some want to make it. War is not personal. Cheating in between wars might be personal, not wars. |
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| teryt | Oct 30 2004, 03:24 PM Post #13 |
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In what way? Please elaborate. |
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| bikemanb | Oct 31 2004, 06:50 AM Post #14 |
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Teryt, Quit reading Republican propaganda and get it in your head that OBL really could care less who is President of the US, if anything Brewster's analysis would be closer to OBL's take than Republican propaganda. They hate us, the West, the US happens to be the largest both from a military and economic standpoint so we make a good target just harder to hit on a regular basis because of distance from their base of operations. They, Radical Islam, hate us because they see the wealth and power we have and yet we are not "pure" like they are, here they are "believers" and they are for the most part poor and repressed. Since accepting responsibility for your own fate would require looking inward at some nasty truths they look outwards to blame the decadent, oppressive West that is holding them down. Perfect example: Why do you think the Saudi's spend so much effort stirring up hate for Israel? If you can blame the Zionist for the ills of the region, it deflects focus from the repressive nature of the Saudi royal family and their disproportionate share of the oil wealth. |
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| cmoehle | Oct 31 2004, 11:24 AM Post #15 |
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That was something I read yesterday. But my son closed down my 23 instances of Firefox and 241 tabs to free up memory and run his video editing software, so I may never find it again. The point had to do with war as being the norm for humans throughout history with intervening periods in which nations cheat each other economically and politically and etc and thereby cause the next war. And, perhaps, I will add, we lie to ourselves it ain't so. Anyway, it is one view on what the US and UBL and Iraq and Iran and Palestine and Isreal are engaging in. |
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