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Army Under French Generals Command In Afghanistan; First time since WW1
Topic Started: Oct 29 2004, 02:54 PM (672 Views)
BuddyIAm
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U.S. Army troops in Afghanistan are now under the Command of French Lt. Gen. Jean-Louis PY.

This is the First time since WW1 that American troops have been under the command of a French officer.

Another first for Bush/Rummy.

With violence in Iraq continuing, U.S. policymakers want NATO to take on a greater responsibility in Afghanistan.
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The referenced article is from the Cox News Service. It was written by Nathan Hodge.

I have been unable to get a copy to post. I do have a scanned copy but am unable to figure out how to post it.
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corky52
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Maybe under French leadership the troops will be able to get UBL, under GWB's leadership they sure haven't had much success!
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BuddyIAm
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That old Europe sure comes in handy to Rummy/Bush. Let's just not put it on the front page.

Sure glad old O'Reilly/conservatives, didn't boycott French, Candian, German and other NATO troops from dieing in Afghanistan.
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jackd
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BuddyIam:
The US army is NOT under the command of Lt. General J.L. PY
He is in command of the NATO alliance in Afghanistan.
The US forces have always been and will remain under a US command
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cmoehle
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What does the article say US military leaders are saying?
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BuddyIAm
Oct 29 2004, 08:54 PM
U.S. Army troops in Afghanistan are now under the Command of French Lt. Gen. Jean-Louis PY.

This is the First time since WW1 that American troops have been under the command of a French officer.

Another first for Bush/Rummy.

With violence in Iraq continuing, U.S. policymakers want NATO to take on a greater responsibility in Afghanistan.

Don't know what to think of that. Does that mean that the Dutch are under French command again? The last time that happened I think was when Srebenica materialized. http://www.srebrenica.nl/en/
Nothing less than a national trauma.
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I watched that movie Blackhawk Down about Mogadishu, Somalia.

Eventually the general in charge of our troops under fire in Mogadishu was able to bring in a portion of the 10th Mountain Division guys to get them out.

I was thinking he was having to get permission to use 10th Mountain from a non-US commander.

If I am correct with that thinking then it indicates to me that the nearby 10th Mountain Division was under command of a foreign leader.

At what point will one decide that our troops are under foreign command. To me, if a consensus has to be reached with a bunch of foreign civilian leaders or foreign military leaders before our troops can take a specific action, then they are for practical purposes under foreign command.
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Again, the US troops are NOT under foreign command.
The US would very much like to merge NATO and US forces into one unit, but it is still in the planning stages.
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BuddyIAm
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The Troops are under the French Generals comand.


You can read the article at the following link.

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http://www.zorpia.com/cgi/album.cgi?00087027
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jackd
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Buddy: You are referring to a small group of about 100 special troops that were dispatched to help for a specific job and to experiment the proposed alliance between NATO and the US troops.
There are close to 20,000 US troops in Afghanistan, 19,900 of which are still under US command.
Check the link I posted earlier.
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BuddyIAm
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Jack

I read your post.. Please now read mine

And then let me hear you say it..

There is a Company of American troops under the Command of a French General in Afghanistan…

This the first time American troops have been under the Command of the French since WW1.

Another first for Bush/Rumsfeld
"The truth lies in a man's dreams... perhaps in this unhappy world of ours whose madness is better than a foolish sanity."
"Facts are stupid things." - Ronald Regan
"Ideas are more dangerous than guns. We don't let our people have guns. Why should we let them have ideas?" --Josef Stalin
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karmasasha
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Buddy, I tried to read your article but was given a message that I had to install a "chinese language pack". What ever that is. I don't understand chinese so I didn't.
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BuddyIAm
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Just say no.. :)

You don't have to install the translation. I don't know why it even asks..
"The truth lies in a man's dreams... perhaps in this unhappy world of ours whose madness is better than a foolish sanity."
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"Ideas are more dangerous than guns. We don't let our people have guns. Why should we let them have ideas?" --Josef Stalin
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jackd
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BuddyIam:
Your first post said:
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U.S. Army troops in Afghanistan are now under the Command ..

Now you say:
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There is a Company of American troops under the Command ....

The link you refereed to said "a platoon.....",
I think I can see a major difference between "U.S. Army troops" and a "'platoon"'
From the link I posted earlier:
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US ambassador to the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) Nicholas Burns.
has suggested that the integration of the US and NATO forces could begin as early as next year but acknowledged it was a "very difficult issue" that will require months of discussion."But it is a very good first step," he said.

recap: There are about 100 US soldiers under NATO command, 19,900 still under US command in Afghanistan.
Eventually, there could be an integration of the forces (U.S +NATO) but not indication as to who will be the commander of the combined forces...if it ever happens.

Are we saying the same thing using different words?
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