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Conservatives & Liberals; What do you think describes each?
Topic Started: Oct 26 2004, 05:06 PM (507 Views)
cmoehle
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Dual-use stereotypes?
Politics is the art of achieving the maximum amount of freedom for individuals that is consistent with the maintenance of social order.
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cmoehle
Oct 28 2004, 02:55 AM
Dual-use stereotypes?

One good stereotype deserves another. (Remember Quadraphonics? Best recorded music I ever heard was from one of those.)
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That sounds so OT, eye for and eye. What happened to the NT?

Quadraphionics better because it provided a wider spectrum than stereo. So why embrace and perpetuate a false dichotomy? Isn't that stereotypical?
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Oct 28 2004, 05:30 AM
(Remember Quadraphonics? Best recorded music I ever heard was from one of those.)


..and Quadrophenia was a great album!
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Oct 28 2004, 10:54 AM
That sounds so OT, eye for and eye. What happened to the NT?

Quadraphionics better because it provided a wider spectrum than stereo. So why embrace and perpetuate a false dichotomy? Isn't that stereotypical?

So because we perceive something that's bad, we souldn't talk about it? To me it goes to an awareness. One has to be aware & recognise, before dealing with it.

"Hello. My name is Tery, and I'm a stereotyper."
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Tery, where have you talked about stereotypes? If you think them bad why promote them by repeating them your first three posts till I started talking about them?
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Answered that in previous post: "So because we perceive something that's bad, we souldn't talk about it? To me it goes to an awareness. One has to be aware & recognise, before dealing with it."
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Tery, where have you talked about stereotypes?
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Oct 28 2004, 11:53 PM
Tery, where have you talked about stereotypes?

In the orig. msg. Are you wanting me to expand on the topic?
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Have to sccot off to class finals tonight & don't have time to say much, but here's a quote from me in dialog I'm having with a liguistic PhD friend on the subject:

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What I am really tripping on this election cycle is how we all gather things to us that fit our perspective foundational paradigms, and how we tend to reject the other ideas.  Much of this, it appears, seems to come from our values.  Values take a long time to formulate, and are seldom changed drastically.  With time, people tend to reinforce these foundational paradigms with their respective ideology.  The blues become bluer by accepting more blue "facts."  The reds the same way with their red "facts." Rarely, it seems, is there major defections.

Fascinating stuff.  If I had another life, I'd perhaps go into political science psychology.

I'm paying attention lately to both "conservative" and "liberal" talk radio, written materials, and dialoguing daily in a rousing on-line political forum (people from all sides & nationalities).  Some things I've casually observed from these on perceptions of conservatives & liberals:

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My point is to show how silly these stereotypes truly are!  Funny thing is neither seems to realize that they do many of the same things they criticize the other for!  Not that I'm really any different in this respect, but I am beginning to get an awareness.    How about you?
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There you're talking about it, not participating in it.

You mention values. What do values have to do with the name calling exampled in your lists? I mean how does name calling derive from values?
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cmoehle
Oct 29 2004, 12:35 AM
There you're talking about it, not participating in it.

You mention values. What do values have to do with the name calling exampled in your lists? I mean how does name calling derive from values?

Not talking about name calling specifically. It's more about a label someone assigns, based upon their views, which is based on their paradgm, which is rooted in their values.

Here's two more:

CONSERVATIVE: Vote denyer

LIBERAL: Vote stealer
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How? And define paradigm.
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