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| Does Anybody Else Notice That The Bush/rep's Never; admit anything is going wrong in Iraq? | |
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| DanielDenali | Oct 26 2004, 01:50 PM Post #16 |
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I am atacking the concept. That is the concept of many. I atack it AND those that employ it. |
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| Peralko | Oct 26 2004, 01:55 PM Post #17 |
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Hmmmm, well, this board used to be civil! |
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| brewster | Oct 26 2004, 01:56 PM Post #18 |
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| DanielDenali | Oct 26 2004, 01:58 PM Post #19 |
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Show me what is uncivil?????? |
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| brewster | Oct 26 2004, 02:24 PM Post #20 |
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-- Joe Moore Daniel; To expect this group to tell you why one particular politician is lying when they all do... I don't know if it's uncivil, but it most definitely is unrealistic. |
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| teryt | Oct 26 2004, 03:26 PM Post #21 |
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Look, as has been said on here before - at some point we all get a certain jelling in our thoughts which forms a foundation. From this foundation we tend to gather thoughts that line up with it, and reject the others. We all do this. It really becomes appearent in politics. Liberals then tend think conservatives are bad folks with suspicious motives, and conservatives tend to think liberals are stupid and want communism. That may be an extreme generalization, but I think basic elements have much validity. Different visions. I don't see things the way you do, and visa versa. We don't convince each other often, because of this basci foundational vision in all of us. It took years to get that way, and people don't really change their foundation very often. It is a question of values. And values, according to many, and now the LA Times op-ed, is what is driving the divide in politics. Economics, because it is numbers based, is easier to prove. Values are more closely akin to things like faith - unseen & harder to prove. I'll stop there, least I ramble too much. Your thoughts, if I don't say it enough, are appreciated as I am learning something hopefully - bear with me!
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| pentax | Oct 26 2004, 03:34 PM Post #22 |
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You mean those things aren't TRUE? LMAO!!! |
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| DanielDenali | Oct 26 2004, 03:41 PM Post #23 |
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Teryt- Your right, I value the truth and my foundation is based on knowing the truth. My values are as well based on the truth. When I make mistakes I admit it. The current administration as well as any other needs to be honest about this war with the American public. We have a right to know what our people are fighting for. I'm not sure I know what that is. |
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| teryt | Oct 26 2004, 04:07 PM Post #24 |
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As Phil Hartman said as one of his characters on the Simpsons: "There's the truth. Then there's the TRUTH !" |
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| DanielDenali | Oct 26 2004, 04:22 PM Post #25 |
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I hope the families of the dead American soldiers find out the truth too. Hopefully they wont be shot to death in their sleep because they don't know who they sleep with. |
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| teryt | Oct 26 2004, 04:46 PM Post #26 |
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It amazes me that people hold on so tightly (me included) to what we view as the truth. A wise man found himself in an argument with another. The other person asked him, "Might you be deceived?" The wise man said, "Certainly. Isn't that the nature of deception!?" |
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| cmoehle | Oct 26 2004, 06:19 PM Post #27 |
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Agreeing to disagree is another form of nonsequitar. |
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| tomdrobin | Oct 26 2004, 08:22 PM Post #28 |
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Why should this president be held to any higher standard than any of his predecessors. It's just not politically wise to do so. Being president isn't like being your sibling, parent or co-worker. You find many of them are less than perfectly honest too. Your unrealistic idealism is showing Daniel. |
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| DanielDenali | Oct 26 2004, 08:33 PM Post #29 |
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I didn't know that it was unrealistic to demand honesty and truth from those that would send people off to die in a war. |
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| brewster | Oct 26 2004, 08:38 PM Post #30 |
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Daniel; Maybe Mark Twain can explain what's going on today:
- "Chronicle of Young Satan" |
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