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Gas Grill Repair
Topic Started: Oct 23 2004, 08:34 AM (728 Views)
cmoehle
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Chris - San Antonio TX
Only two, three years old. Racoons may have chewed it.
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kajtek1
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Kris, CA
Chris if you have gas getting thru, that means the regulator works.
Those things have rare failure. Even those 30-40 years old are still working.
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cmoehle
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Chris - San Antonio TX
Then I'm back at yellow flame instead of blue. What else would cause that?
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kajtek1
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Yellow flame is too rich mixture. Somewhere, right past the orifice ( this is official name for gas injector) you'll find a venturi tube with adjustable cover. Open the cover more to give the burner more air.
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cmoehle
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Chris - San Antonio TX
Too rich, thought too lean. Hmmm. Orifice, injector, venturi--geek to me.
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kajtek1
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Kris, CA
I have a link to repair clinic, but evidently they don't want amateurs to mess with this stuff, since in the blow-up the venturi is not even shown.
This is how orifice looks like
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and this is burner with venturi. The right end venturi is having sliding cover, that is adjustable

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Have to go for B-day party. Hope you are still alive, when I come back?
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cmoehle
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Chris - San Antonio TX
Just found similar. Orifice fits into venturi. I cleaned burner and venturi but not orifice. That's all up inside the box and hard to get at let alone see. Don't worry, it'll wait till next weekend.

I'd looked at manual but just didn't get it.


Thanks! :tiphat:
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roz
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We have to replace burners on ours about every 2 or 3 years, (Wally World has
a good selection of burners and other parts)

After 2nd replacement, time to throw away and buy new grill.
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kajtek1
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Kris, CA
The burner is usually snap-on, or hold by 1 screw, when it will slide out, exposing orifice. Orifice is having a hole in the size of just few 1/1000, so unless you have special cleaner, all you can do is remove it and blow in reverse with compress air.
Good luck.
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kajtek1
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BTW now I remember why I am using charcoal on my 15 years old barbecue. :mad1:
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cmoehle
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Chris - San Antonio TX
I broke down a couple few years ago and gave up charcoal for this. Beginning to wonder myself!

I think I get it now. My cleaning went only as far as the orifices, should've gone one step further. :doh:

If that fails--and I live--replacement is the next option. Throw-away society.
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kajtek1
Oct 24 2004, 02:21 PM
Chris if you have gas getting thru, that means the regulator works.
Those things have rare failure. Even those 30-40 years old are still working.

regulator is just what it is named. It regulates the amount of gas (pressure) the burner gets. Just because you are getting gas does not mean it is okay. You may be getting too much or little. Yes, they can go bad in 2 or 3 years.

You might be able to order one from the company that manufactured your grill, but since your hoses seem to be brittle, get the hose/regulator already set up.

The new hose ends may seem alittle tight. You can soften them by soaking in hot water or a slick way that usually works is to rub dish detergent full strength ( something like joy, not machine soap) on the inside of the hose generously.
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karmasasha
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kajtek1
Oct 24 2004, 11:08 PM
The burner is usually snap-on, or hold by 1 screw, when it will slide out, exposing orifice. Orifice is having a hole in the size of just few 1/1000, so unless you have special cleaner, all you can do is remove it and blow in reverse with compress air.
Good luck.

Soak in vinager and simmer on stove if possible. I have used baking soda/water combo also. If you use baking soda make sure everything is rinsed thoroughly afterwards as the soda will dry and cake. Vinager I believe is the best and will not blow you up to Minnesota.

Blowing compressed air will not remove debre unless the particles are very loose. They are usually baked on.
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olstuf
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Get the regulator checked. My wife's cousin had to replace one on his water heater in the motorhome that was new! Flame was way too high and scorched the cover and almost caught the coach on fire when the range flared up to the top of the ceiling. Orfices can become plugged but unless you know the size and have the proper tools to clean it, you can screw it up. Compressed air as someone suggested can clear it sometimes but depending on what is causing the plug sometimes not. You are in dirt dauber country and they may have pluggged the vent on the regulator. If so, you will not be able to blow it clean with air. I used LP gas for motor fuel for 30 years. and have heated with it for 50. It is not something for amatuers to play with. I consider myself an amatuer yet.
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cmoehle
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Chris - San Antonio TX
It'll be next Saturday before I get back to it--so I'll be around this week at least.

Like I said the orifice is where I stopped. Be a snap to get that far again. From look of hoses, don't think I can remove as they are clamped on, crimped on? Only reason they would be bad is if racoons chewed them, but visual inspection shows no problem. I'd have to replace as a unit. May find that's true for orifices as well.

Thanks for all the help though.
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