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Kerry Sends 10,000 Lawyers To Polling Places; Sounds like a joke - but not funny!
Topic Started: Oct 20 2004, 01:29 PM (873 Views)
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teryt
Oct 26 2004, 08:39 PM
cmoehle
Oct 26 2004, 05:31 PM
When the basic argument is "When the party that loses but claims victory and sues using its many lawyers" it is relevant to point out it is not true since in fact the Reps sued in court.


Hmm, I didn't make that statement, Chris, Banandagess did some time back. You appear to frequently get me confussed with someone else. Hense, to me your injection seemed like a RED HERRING.

You're right Tery, It was my question. I was asking "who pays all these lawyers?" Nothing in the question was directed to which political party used the lawyers or used them first. But, I guess a bit of paranoia set in and the meaning took to the left at the fork in the road. :bang:
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Oct 27 2004, 11:30 AM
I guess I figured those who advocate positions would remember them.

Negotiating implies winning and losing, what's to be won and lost here?

Sometimes you sound like a lawyer.


Let me, on edit, respond to this issue of logical fallacies. I do not claim heartless logical perfection. Nor am I personally insulted when someone points to something specific I say and explains it is a logical or factual flaw. And that I believe is a difference in my doing it and your doing it. I take the time to make it clear what it is I think is the logical flaw, thereby giving the other the chance to clarify intent or explain position better or fill in the missing gap in thought. hat differs from liberally flipping the terms out, ad hominem! strawman! red herring! as nonsequitars.

A "lawyer"!? Now I will have to get Zell on you! :laugh: Funny, Chris, but I've been thinking the same of you - I'm serious.

We might "win" or "loose" the argument. In this is a certain power - maybe not in your definition of power though. Granted, I'm coming from strictly a textbook definition here.

Chris said: I guess I figured those who advocate positions would remember them.

Often hard to track for me - that's why I suggested you use the quote function more, as it does a nice job of showing exactly who said what. A couple times you have adamatly attributed things to me, which I didn't say.

Thanks for the coaching on the logical fallacy issue. Point taken. I guess I'm assuming that others (you mostly) know what I'm refering to.

Ya know, it is facinating to me regarding the issue of communicating electronically. So many of the things that we might pick up in person, or even on the telephone are lost. IMHO that is where many of these miscommunications come from.
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No one has ever won an argument on the Internet that I've ever seen.

Here is what I think the Internet is about: Douglas Adams' The Four Ages of Sand.

Forgive but don't forget is a motto of mine.
Politics is the art of achieving the maximum amount of freedom for individuals that is consistent with the maintenance of social order.
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Oct 28 2004, 12:40 AM
No one has ever won an argument on the Internet that I've ever seen.


So maybe it's just an illusion of power. :tiphat:
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Whose?
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I was asking "who pays all these lawyers?"


From what I read, alot of them are volunteers, from both sides.
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Oct 28 2004, 01:12 PM
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I was asking "who pays all these lawyers?"


From what I read, alot of them are volunteers, from both sides.

Now that's an oxymoron!
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Where's the oxymoron? Social conservative--definitely an oxymoron. But what in what you quoted is an oxymoron?

Dictionary.com: "A rhetorical figure in which incongruous or contradictory terms are combined...."

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Oct 27 2004, 05:40 PM
No one has ever won an argument on the Internet that I've ever seen.


Not the most eloquent statement I have ever read, but I DID see the following a year or so ago:

"Arguing on the Internet is like being in the Special Olympics - even if you win, you're still retarded."


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Oct 28 2004, 05:31 PM
Where's the oxymoron?

Lawyers not getting paid - perhaps not in direct monetary ways, but perhaps in power ways (which translates to money).

Lighten up - it was a lawyer joke! :tomato:
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I asked a question. Sorry. :dunno:

What joke?
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Oct 28 2004, 11:54 PM
I asked a question. Sorry. :dunno:

What joke?

Guess I need to give up those ideas about doing a stand-up routine. :(
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