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The Eagle
Topic Started: Aug 30 2004, 11:28 AM (112 Views)
rednecker
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Got this in an email today and I don't have Quran so I don't know for sure if it is true but still thought it was interesting if it was true.

This is eerie...and something to think about since America                
is typically represented by an eagle. Saddam should have read up on   his Muslim passages. The following verse is from the Quran, the          
     Islamic Bible)...                                                         
                    
Quran (9:/11/0/) -- For it is written that a son of                      
Arabia would awaken a fearsome Eagle. The wrath of the Eagle would be felt throughout the lands of Allah and lo, while some of the people trembled in despair still more rejoiced; for the wrath of the Eagle cleansed the lands of Allah; and there was peace.                           
                                                                               
     (Note the verse number!!!!!)                                              
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cmoehle
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Chris - San Antonio TX
Check snopes.com. Debunked.

But this is better

The Second Coming

Turning and turning in a widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the center cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: somewhere in sands of the desert
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again; but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches toward Bethlehem to be born?

--William Butler Yeats

Politics is the art of achieving the maximum amount of freedom for individuals that is consistent with the maintenance of social order.
--Barry Goldwater
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pentax
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Quote:
 
Quran (9:/11/0/)


I think the amazing degree of coincidence in the passage number would make me mighty suspicious, Snopes or no Snopes..... <_<
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"Kirk to Enterprise - Very funny, Scotty.... now beam down my clothes!"
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rednecker
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Just got this from the person that originally sent me the email:

http://www.wam.umd.edu/~stwright/rel/islam...some-eagle.html

Wish I'd waited a bit longer to post the email - oh well, I'm gullible
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roscoe
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I was going to say just delete it with an explanation but you can't. HMMMMM

The old no deletion of posts trick.
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PRT
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Chris,
Re Yeats. I know you and I have discussed this poem within the last two? years, but now I think he really was writing in response to WW I and is not quite the visionary I used to see.
I think his idea of the gyres (spinning out of control now) was offset by the European situation of his day, not to mention the Easter Rising of 1916 in Ireland itself, and his 2000 year dateline was being messed up. I think the "center cannot hold" was an issue with the gyres and the center they need to spin as they do, and now it was awry.
I'll PM with more since this is thread hijacking at its worst! Sorry :(
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cmoehle
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Chris - San Antonio TX
I'd agree Yeats wrote about the world he knew but in a way through metaphor and imagery that made it universal. A gyre is a historical cycle, one of which was ending a that time, the old world order was falling apart and a new one emerging, but universal because it repeats. His A Vision goes into great detail.

We likely talked about the last time I saw a reference to the Eagle.


rednecker, we are by nature gullible.
Politics is the art of achieving the maximum amount of freedom for individuals that is consistent with the maintenance of social order.
--Barry Goldwater
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cmoehle
Aug 30 2004, 07:41 PM
A gyre is a historical cycle, one of which was ending a that time, the old world order was falling apart and a new one emerging, but universal because it repeats. His A Vision goes into great detail.

Yes and no. The gyre is geometric . Gyres Plus
Yeats is amazing at all turns. There's another reference I can't find right now that extends the end of this "gyre" to 2100. If I find it I'll tell you.
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