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| California Driver License Battle; Business has Vested Interest in Not Havi | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Aug 18 2004, 05:02 PM (235 Views) | |
| corky52 | Aug 18 2004, 05:02 PM Post #1 |
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The unseen battle here about whether or not to make divers licenses indicate whether or not proof of legal residences was provided is getting heated. The Governor has set standards that would make a drivers license valid I.D. but not absolve a prospective employer from checking further as to issue of legal residence. The controversy here is most interesting to watch, business is once again trying to escape from the law by helping to create more flawed I.D. that would allow them to pretend ignorance. |
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| olstuf | Aug 18 2004, 05:50 PM Post #2 |
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What proof of residence does the state require to obtain a driver's license? Must you provide an address other than a Post Office box number? Must they complete a driver's education course before obtaining a license as our state does for your first license or a valid license from another state if applying for one here. Is proof of citizenship required? I've never had a license from any state other than where I acquired my first one. I have another state ID card on which I used my address while there mostly for emergency idenitification if I were unable to inform whomever. In years past, many truck drivers had multiple driver's licenses and it has been rumored that it is still happening with CDLs. If the state isn't going to check, how can they require an employer do so? What identity proof is needed if one does not have a driver's license. Not common but I know serveral people that do not. (For various reasons)
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| kajtek1 | Aug 18 2004, 07:09 PM Post #3 |
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The only time I know about, when the citizenship is required is voters registration and some of defense forces. You don't need citizenship to own property, work and live in USA. Legal residency is required for work and permanent driving license. That is usually checked by Social Security card, that is given to legal residents only. |
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| jackd | Aug 18 2004, 07:17 PM Post #4 |
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In our neck of the woods, in order to get new a driver's license, a new applicant needs to produce a separate ID issued by the provincial government Here, an individual has only ONE ID filed at the government which is used for any dealing with the Government: taxation, health, driver's license, Social security, schools, unemployment insurance, drug insurance and everything else. The nice thing about it is when someone moves, only one notice of change of address is required and all the files are up-date with the new address JackD |
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Walk in front of me, you lead me, Walk behind me, I lead you Walk beside me, you are a friend. | |
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| olstuf | Aug 19 2004, 06:24 AM Post #5 |
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Never given it much thought as I was not issued a SS card at birth as is done now. My driver's license which was acquired at age 17 and SS card applied for around the same time. I guess because of the small population of our area where everyone knew each other and much different times, proof was not required. I did have to acquire a replacement SS card when I was hired by the state as mine had been lost/destroyed years before. Again, no proof required, just my number and a replacement card was issued. I suppose the only proof of my citizenship is my birth certificate. |
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| kajtek1 | Aug 19 2004, 11:31 AM Post #6 |
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Birth certificate and valid driving license are proof for crossing Mexican, or Canadian border. For other better get Passport. The government agencies are very, very poor organized and don't exchange the data. My step-mom naturalized over 30 years ago, but on last trip, when she forgot the passport, her record listed "resident alien". Makes you wonder how many years SS takes to update the records. |
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| olstuf | Aug 19 2004, 12:58 PM Post #7 |
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I have only crossed over the Canadian border and back one time and the Mexican border 3 or 4 times. Never have I been asked for any proof of citizenship although I will say I haven't crossed either for several years. I know those who cross into and back along the south Tx. border are not required to have any proof if they are caucasian. I am not certain about extended tours. Have to ask this winter. |
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| kajtek1 | Aug 19 2004, 04:51 PM Post #8 |
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Try to speak broken english and not have your birth certificate.
Last week it took me about 1 HR to make last 1/2 mile to the California border in Tijuana. I was on the one of over 20 lines moving slowly every few seconds. |
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| olstuf | Aug 19 2004, 07:42 PM Post #9 |
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Heck, if what is spoken down in south Texas is broken, I don't know what is. A mixture of Americanese, Tex/Mex, and who knows what else, it is a wonder if anyone understands anything. Maybe we have some Canadians on the forum who cross over into Mexico. Do you acknowledge you are a Canadian and are required to show a passport or when they ask if you are a citizen, do you just say yes like most everyone else? Maybe that area is unique because of so much Winter Texan traffic. Literally thousands cross daily into the border cities and most have no major delays. |
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| jackd | Aug 19 2004, 07:58 PM Post #10 |
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I have crossed over to Mexico a few times and have always been asked for my passport....except once (years ago) when we crossed from SanDiago to Tijuana. Kajtec1: A driver's licence is not a proper ID to enter Canada. From the Canada Custom Information Center's WEB site:
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| kajtek1 | Aug 19 2004, 08:30 PM Post #11 |
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When I bought motorhome in Canada I was crossing the border to USA without license plates on it. Waived the passport through the window and the officer asked me "how many Mexicans you have there?" After I answered "None" (notice, that I speak with accent) he let me go without getting off his both. Later had to go to local customs to have the motorhome papers stamped. |
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