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| teryt | Jul 5 2006, 09:00 AM Post #46 |
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So is this what we're talking about when we discuss science? If so, I think we may have achieved clarity! |
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| cmoehle | Jul 5 2006, 10:18 AM Post #47 |
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Have we? That clarity has always existed for science. Why would Creationists want to obfuscate that clarity when arguing ID? Why would they wear one hat talking to evangelicals, another when talking to scientists? |
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| teryt | Jul 5 2006, 10:32 AM Post #48 |
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I was talking subjective clarity - for me! I don't know about hats as I don't wear them (makes my head hot). LOL Seriously, I'm not totally sure I know what you're getting at. Sure, when a Creationist talks to other Creationists, they would be talking as an insider. Then again, if the Creationist was also a scientist (I know some), they could talk as an insider their too. |
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| cmoehle | Jul 5 2006, 10:45 AM Post #49 |
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Forgetful? We just recently covered this. A Creationist talking to evangelicals speaks of the Designer as their (and I presume, your) God. But to a scientist insists there's no connection implied. I have cited most of the prime movers of ID, Johnson, Behe, and Dembski, speaking in this Janus way. I think it was Alan who put it as wearing two hats, saying of course that's done. See, there's clarity there too, isn't there? |
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| teryt | Jul 5 2006, 11:43 AM Post #50 |
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Great! Gotta get to work - the happiness of pursuit! |
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| cmoehle | Jul 5 2006, 12:30 PM Post #51 |
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me "Thing is, banan, science does not prove anything, but it does have hypotheses and theories that explain and predict matter, the most familiar being Big Bang." Eric "No, we can't explain, within the confines of a well developed and tested theory, where matter came from. But, if you'd care to learn what some scientists think MIGHT be an answer, put QUANTUM COSMOLOGY into Google and you'll find a lot of information." OK, so I was a little off, I'm learning. I'd thought Inflationary Theory part of Big Bang. Not so...
Now Inflationary Theory I've heard of and read about, but here is a new aspect, at least to me, the notion of "eternal inflation", or repeated, almost recursive, fractal-like, based on simple rules:
Guth's theory runs counter to earlier Judeo-Christian and scientific theories:
Citation from Alan H. Guth's The Inflationary Universe: The Quest for a New Theory of Cosmic Origins. Source, A New Theory of Cosmic Origins. |
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