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| Tweet Topic Started: Jun 23 2006, 05:16 AM (546 Views) | |
| tomdrobin | Jun 23 2006, 09:10 PM Post #16 |
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Ken I don't know anything about this Chickenhawk O'Riely fella, so can't comment. If our stated goal is to win the hearts and minds of Iraqi's, then we need to get rid of our weapons, and get down on our knees and start doing some serious boot licking. And, at the same time bring in truckloads of money to whoo them properly. Political rhetoric aside we need to "win the war". For this to happen the people need to fear us more than they fear the insurgents. We need to be the invincible guy with a big stick. And, I believe we can play that roll. But, we must not be too concerned about "our image" in the process. How do you think Sadaam maintained control over these diverse groups? Perhaps he understood them better than we do. Yes, I can see at some point in time, when enough is enough, that there would be just cause for leveling a village. But, maybe I'm just a ruthless war mongering chicken hawk. So lets just stay the course and let them pick our unfortunate sons off daily while we maintain our image. Or, put our tail between our legs and head home in defeat. |
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| campingken | Jun 23 2006, 10:40 PM Post #17 |
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Tom, If someone stood your wife up against a wall and shot her would that make you fear and obey him? If an invading force bomded a town where your son and daughter lived would that cause you to stop resisting? Terror begats more terror. So whatever the answer is in Iraq it is something different than what we are currently doing. I am truly thankful that my son has served his 4 years and does not have to go back there again. Saddam was a cold blooded killer and the world is better off without him so it would be ironic if we brought "freedom" to Iraq by acting like Sadam O'Reily is a conservative (he claims) talk show host who although he never served is real big on sending the sons of others off to fight. Ken |
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| cmoehle | Jun 24 2006, 08:12 AM Post #18 |
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You win hearts and minds by building infrastructure (roads, schools, pwer plants, etc) and security so the country can get back on its feet. As I understand, despite all the negative news, that is primarily what we and other nations are doing. The US has a long history of doing this--Central America, the Far East, best examples Japan and Germany. No other nation gies as much in aid and assistance around the world. And yet we're hated by many it seems. |
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Politics is the art of achieving the maximum amount of freedom for individuals that is consistent with the maintenance of social order. --Barry Goldwater | |
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| Tom | Jun 24 2006, 08:58 AM Post #19 |
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These tribal wars have been going on from the beginning of time. Will never end. Than the religion thing. You see that all over the world. They all feel there religion is the only and best. All others should be condemned. Bunch of hypocrites. Some religion even believe in killing you if you do not believe there way. One reason I do not follow any religion. |
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| cmoehle | Jun 27 2006, 04:13 AM Post #20 |
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Religion is a tribal thing, I believe. |
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| cmoehle | Jun 28 2006, 04:38 AM Post #21 |
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For what it's worth, the government here may have been pulling our leg. John Stewart and Alberto Gonzales: WMP Video, QT Video. |
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| ngc1514 | Jun 28 2006, 07:26 AM Post #22 |
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Got a chuckle out of Richard Cohen's column this morning about the 7 "terrorists" caught recently.
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| pentax | Jun 28 2006, 10:26 AM Post #23 |
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And I wonder why??? Anything to do with someone getting behind a microphone and telling the world; "The party's over here, boys - bring it on!" ??? Hmmmm? |
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| cmoehle | Jun 28 2006, 10:35 AM Post #24 |
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Cohen asks "Does it matter?" You bet, this is a real war, and imaginary announcements put us all on then off guard. |
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