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| campingken | Jun 22 2006, 05:47 PM Post #16 |
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Today I heard re-plays of Bush's pre invasion speeches. He said "active program and immediate danger to USA etc." Now they want to justify the war because 3 years ago we found shells that we sold Iraq under Bush the first to use on Iran. Why do the Hannity's et al even bother? The Bush true believers think that his decisions are made by God and over 50% of the rest of us think that invading Iraq was a mistake. Ken |
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| bikemanb | Jun 23 2006, 06:47 AM Post #17 |
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Faith based foreign policy, works great lasts a long time. Yeah right. What is unfortunate is that we did not find some true evidence of WMD within a decent interval to help restore our credibility as a nation. |
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Bill, Rita and Chloe the Terror Cat For having lived long, I have experienced many instances of being obliged, by better information or fuller consideration, to change opinions, even on important subjects, which I once thought right but found to be otherwise. Benjamin Franklin | |
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| cmoehle | Jun 26 2006, 05:51 AM Post #18 |
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PETER HOEKSTRA AND RICK SANTORUM respond to us
Saddam's WMD: Why is out [sic] intelligence community holding back?
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Politics is the art of achieving the maximum amount of freedom for individuals that is consistent with the maintenance of social order. --Barry Goldwater | |
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| abradf2519 | Jun 26 2006, 03:15 PM Post #19 |
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So the spin that the WMDs found are not really usable is incorrect. They can be used to kill people, and maybe terrorists have gotten some. Wonderful! I think the Bush Admin was saving this info for release after anti war progressives had delared "There are no WMDs in IRAQ" before they had all the info (a common mistake they make, IMHO), to be released just before the 2006 elections. |
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| abradf2519 | Jun 26 2006, 03:24 PM Post #20 |
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Why is a "decent" interval important? We are so impatient. When no WMDs were found right away, the anti war crowd ran off yelling about it. Why do we listen to them? This report is proof that they jumped the gun. We need to learn to wait untill ALL the information is out before we start formulating opinions. The press starts speculating, and we just automatically start accepting their spin without thinking. Bush's low poll numbers are evedence of this. The economy is good and the war is going well compared to previous wars. Most people don't care about increased federal spending so, why else are his poll numbers low? The media spun the war to look bad with incomplete information. People arn't thinking. |
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| abradf2519 | Jun 26 2006, 03:29 PM Post #21 |
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Because your characterisation of the situation is incorrect. They want people to stop just automatically accepting spin they see on the more progressive media and listen to another side. Nobody that I know of thinks Bush's decisions are made by God. They think they are made by Bush. Where do you get this information? Can you provide a link? 50% of the people that think the war in Iraq is a mistake have formed an opinion before all the information is available. |
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| cmoehle | Jun 26 2006, 03:55 PM Post #22 |
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"50% of the people that think the war in Iraq is a mistake have formed an opinion before all the information is available." And the other half took us to war on less. "... to be released just before the 2006 elections" Are we to trust people who politicize war like that? |
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| abradf2519 | Jun 26 2006, 04:13 PM Post #23 |
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No, President Bush and the Congress took us to war.
You think the Dems don't do stuff like that too? We only have 2 choices right now, the Dems and Reps, and they both save info to be released before an election, IMHO. |
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| cmoehle | Jun 26 2006, 04:18 PM Post #24 |
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You think I trust either party?
Vote Libertarian!
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Politics is the art of achieving the maximum amount of freedom for individuals that is consistent with the maintenance of social order. --Barry Goldwater | |
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| abradf2519 | Jun 26 2006, 04:43 PM Post #25 |
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I shoulda known that!
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| Colo_Crawdad | Jun 26 2006, 04:43 PM Post #26 |
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Since the United States has a couple of nuclear weapons for which we cannot account or identify their specific whereabouts and a great deal of nuclear material for which we cannot account as well as a great number of old mustard gas devices which have degraded, does that mean someone should invade our country? I hardly think so. That is why President Bush was so careful to use phrases such as "active program" and "immediate danger" in his speeches while many more in his administration used the phrase "imminent threat." One might also ask just how many of those pre 1991 weapons were developed with technology provided by the United States in hopes they might be used against Iran. |
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| cmoehle | Jun 27 2006, 04:22 AM Post #27 |
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No doubt most of them came from here. |
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| abradf2519 | Jun 27 2006, 10:50 AM Post #28 |
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Where did you get this information? Is it speculation? I would think if this was true, the military would be keeping this secret. Just semantics. I think you are seeing more than is there.
Irrelivent. If this is true, they were given before Saddam's interest in terrorism. Do we know this is true, or is this just speculation? |
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| cmoehle | Jun 27 2006, 10:56 AM Post #29 |
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Saddam's interest in terrorism? Is that speculation. He was a tyrant, no doubt about it, but a global terrorist? Surely, you jest, er, just speculate. |
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| abradf2519 | Jun 27 2006, 11:14 AM Post #30 |
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No speculation....Saddam Hussen paid the families of Palestinian Terrorists $25,000 for every terrorist killed in a suicide attack. New information is forthcoming, but I won't speculate on that! |
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Alan Milan, New York, USA | |
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