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Us & Iran's Nuke Program; Can this really work considering . . .
Topic Started: Jun 6 2006, 03:25 PM (953 Views)
tomdrobin
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North Korea made deals too, in order to stop their development of a nuc. But, without hesitation broke those agreements. and resorted to international criminal activity to support their regime (the counterfitting). What to do? I don't think sanctions work, there is always someone willing to figure out a way to get around them. And, they don't hurt the leaders, they hurt the people.

Perhaps a better strategy would be. "Go ahead a have your nucs if you will, but realize the price. Every major city in your country will be targeted by our nuclear capability in response to yours" (another cold war). That sort of thing weighs heavily on the populace.

I think we should try and intercept and shoot down N. Korea's upcoming planned ICBM test.
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This was a surprise! Mondale supports pre-emptive strike against North Korea
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From Drudge Report

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Iran's supreme leader rejects nuclear talks with the US, saying not beneficial
Tue Jun 27 2006 09:25:10 ET

Iran's supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has rejected the prospect of talks with the United States on the nuclear program, saying nothing would be gained, state television reported Tuesday.

"Negotiations with the United States would have no benefit for us, and we do not need them," the television quoted Khamenei as telling Senegalese President Abdoulaye Wade.

Developing...

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At least they're honest, could have pulled the wool over our eyes.
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There is certainly something to that!
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I heard there was an IF to this, something like if they can obtain nuclear energy, but I don't follow it so closely.
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VIENNA, Austria (AP) - Western powers will reactivate efforts to punish Iran through possible U.N. Security Council sanctions unless it suspends uranium enrichment and agrees to talks on its nuclear program by July 12, diplomats said Monday.

The envoys - some of them senior U.N. diplomats, and all familiar with details of the six-nation drive to persuade Iran to compromise on its nuclear activities - spoke just two days before a key Iran-European Union meeting in Brussels meant to make clear to the Iranians that their time is running out.

On Wednesday, senior EU envoy Javier Solana will urge top Iranian nuclear negotiator Ali Larijani to commit his country immediately to suspending enrichment and starting negotiations, the diplomats said.

They also said Russia and China were closer than ever to supporting the West on U.N. Security Council action - including sanctions - if Tehran refuses the package of incentives meant to wean it off enrichment.


Iran has until July 12 as per Security Council
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Found this:
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Since then, many things have happened. In February 2005, the U.S. announced it would sell 500 conventional “bunker busting” bombs to Israel, that could be used to take out buried nuclear and missile sites in Iran. But as reality sank in of what an effective military strike against 60 to 70 Iranian sites would require, Prime Minister Sharon – a long-time battlefield general – had second thoughts.

Unilateral Israeli action, without provocation from Iran, could unleash a diplomatic, economic and military backlash such as the Jewish state had never witnessed since 1948, Sharon argued. After meeting with President Bush at his Texas ranch last April, Sharon made a strategic decision – against the advice of his own generals and intelligence staff – to place his bets on U.S.-backed nuclear negotiations with Iran led by the European Union.

Almost no one really believed those negotiations would succeed. The Europeans expressed mounting exasperation as Tehran broke its promises repeatedly, closing nuclear sites to inspectors and resuming banned nuclear processing.

Faced with the impatience of his own military, Sharon’s reasoning was simple. Every other option was worse.


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Some are more cautious: Pentagon sees Iran bombing as unsuccessful.

An unidentified general said "This is son of Iraq."
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Some are more cautious: Pentagon sees Iran bombing as unsuccessful.

An unidentified general said "This is son of Iraq."

Yes, with a supposed 60-70 hardened sites, it's not a great option. That why even Sharon felt it was the last option.
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