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| American In Poorer Health Than Canadians; Any relationship to "Universal care?" | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: May 31 2006, 07:59 AM (442 Views) | |
| Colo_Crawdad | May 31 2006, 07:59 AM Post #1 |
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Study: U.S. not as healthy as Canada (Emphasis added)
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| abradf2519 | May 31 2006, 08:56 AM Post #2 |
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Diabetes? High blood pressure? Arthritis? Are these preventable by health care? Seems to me if you are going to have one of these problems, it doesn't matter how often you've been to the doctor. The only advantage a Canadian would have is that he/she may be dealing with these problems earlier, and it costs less. Seems like there is a major problem with the study. |
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| cmoehle | Jun 1 2006, 05:00 AM Post #3 |
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From Minding the Health Gap. Universal health care and single payer insurance are not solutions, just band-aides. |
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Politics is the art of achieving the maximum amount of freedom for individuals that is consistent with the maintenance of social order. --Barry Goldwater | |
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| cruiser | Jun 1 2006, 08:07 AM Post #4 |
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We have a much larger population of african Americans then Canada. It is a well known fact that they have a much larger incidence of heart disease, diabetes, and hypertension. This fact will skew any random poll taken. |
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Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from a religious conviction. Blaise Pascal (1623 - 1662) | |
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| Colo_Crawdad | Jun 1 2006, 04:36 PM Post #5 |
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Do they also have a lower percentage of health coverage? That might skew the results too. Oh, that's what the article indicated, isn't it? |
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| cruiser | Jun 1 2006, 06:17 PM Post #6 |
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What does diabetes, hypertension, and heart disease have to do with this. All the health care in the world cannot change this FACT, |
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Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from a religious conviction. Blaise Pascal (1623 - 1662) | |
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| tomdrobin | Jun 1 2006, 09:42 PM Post #7 |
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This is also true of the Mexican American population. High rates of diabetes and hypertension. Both are diseases caused primarily by obesity and diets high in salt and fat. I've read research suggesting the reason is their not to distant ancestors lived on a very simple low sodium, low fat diet out of necessity (to keep from starving). So these diseases are really the result of prosperity, by those who are not gentically adapted to it yet. |
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| campingken | Jun 2 2006, 12:37 PM Post #8 |
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Perhaps we are just fatter than Canadians and don't excerise enough..... Ken |
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| tomdrobin | Jun 2 2006, 09:52 PM Post #9 |
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Or perhaps the Canadians have better "health" genes than we. Aren't the majority of European decent? Less prone to the high BP, and BS that many in our population are. |
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| Justine | Jun 2 2006, 10:01 PM Post #10 |
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I don't think there is one reason, I think there are serveral, and I think some of the previous posts had excellant points. African Americans do have a higher incident of heart disease, diabetes and high blood pressure. America has way more African Americans then Canada. Obesity is a contributing factor in manyof these health problems, and , unfortunately America has a high rate of obesity. Universal health care has many faults( waits being only one of many) , but, it does mean that most Canadians are able to see a doctor sooner and get preventative care easier, regardless of income. I do think that one study is not to be taken as gospel, and studies can be non conclusive, with the researchers sometimes really stretching a point to come to a conclusion. |
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| tomdrobin | Jun 2 2006, 10:07 PM Post #11 |
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| Banandangees | Jun 3 2006, 05:52 AM Post #12 |
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Stress! It's stress. What's Canadians have to be stressed about?
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| cmoehle | Jun 3 2006, 07:15 AM Post #13 |
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Stress is an important factor. Whether you think we're deeply or closely divided, there is a lot of heated debate on issues and values. If you read the initial article you will see the findings are based on surveys of how people perceive their health, not actual health as determined by a physician. |
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| Justine | Jun 7 2006, 12:59 AM Post #14 |
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" how people perceive their health" So maybe there are more American hyperchondriacs. ??
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| pentax | Jun 7 2006, 02:14 AM Post #15 |
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I hope I don't offend anyone here, but my 40-something nephew just got back from a family trip to Disneyland and the Anaheim area. One of the first observations he told me was (no offence) "Mur, you wouldn't believe how many really obese people there are down there.... 250, 300 pounds is NOTHING!" He was genuinely amazed..... I have a 40-inch waist since I was lying around ill most of the winter, and it really embarrasses me, but I'm also 6'1". (240 lbs) |
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