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| Cheney Shoots Man In Texas | |
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| Fr. Mike | Feb 17 2006, 08:23 PM Post #106 |
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As to claiming that Cheney or anyone was drunk is pure speculation and fiction. It's laughable as to how creative the mind can be when we are desperately looking for a certain outcome. You have a good point unless you come from a family that has a few hunters in the clan. I haven't hunted since being a teenager, but I don't think it is a stretch to say that hunters tip a few beers when in the field. I heard tonight that the Vice President had taken his shot while facing a setting sun and aiming down a hill. I would say common sense would dictate that you never pull the trigger in this configuration. I also consider it common sense to follow the ambulance to the hospital and sit by the bedside of a dear friend--IF I JUST SHOT HIM! Not stay back at the ranch enjoying a nice sit down meal. And the idea that the lady who owns the ranch should be the defacto press agent who tells the taxpayers through the local newspaper that the second highest office holder who is one heartbeat away from the highest office--JUST SHOT SOMEBODY! I had to turn off the news tonight because every channel was consumned with this case. I suppose the only positive thing the aministration has gotten is that it does take the focus off theoir other problems. |
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| spikefish | Feb 17 2006, 09:03 PM Post #107 |
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I think some of the posters need to sober up, it appears many have the DT's. Extrapolating facts from a situation that they know no more about than what is in limited news accounts, and dictating how one should behave in a situation in which they have had no experience. Monday morning quarter-backing at the extreme. |
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| cmoehle | Feb 17 2006, 09:09 PM Post #108 |
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Spike, the same could be said of what you just said about posters sobering up and having DTs. The same could be said about how we got ourselves caught up in Iraq, extrapolating from poor and faulty intelligence. Except there is was Saturday night quarterbacking. |
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| tomdrobin | Feb 17 2006, 10:01 PM Post #109 |
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Fr Mike I think your confusing hunting with fishing. Fisherman like to booze it up while waiting for the fish to bite. Out in the field with a lethal weapon and drinking? I've never done it, and have a lot of hunting friends who wouldn't think of doing it either. Can't say there aren't a few out in the morning with a hangover from the night before. But, that is another issue. No doubt Cheney made an error in judgement in the excitement of the moment, but that's how accidents happen mostly through human error. |
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| CalRed | Feb 17 2006, 11:04 PM Post #110 |
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The Bush haters just keep right on coming. Where were all you people when Clinton was disgracing the office of the President? You were all saying that whatever he does in his private time is hisbusiness. Well the oval office isn't his private time. Well you never had it so good. Your taxes are far lower and you're better off than you have been in many years. Admit it... And as for drinking and hunting, no real hunter would be drinking in the field. That's reserved for when you get back in. If I was hunting quail and someone started drinking, I'd probably shoot him. It's for sure I would not want to be around. Strange how everyone seems to be so sure Cheney was drinking. I doubt it very much. |
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| Jose Angemon | Feb 18 2006, 09:14 AM Post #111 |
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Fr. Mike, With all due respect, I do come from a familiy of hunters. Everyone in Texas hunts something, it's part of our culture and is a right-of-passage for our youth. While there was plenty of alcohol available after the hunt at the cabin or deer camp, alcohol before or during the hunt is absolutely forbidden. You may believe what you will, but, I believe even the authorities have determined that alcohol was not involved. Drinking and hunting should never be done together, and I believe the practice is not common place among civilized people. |
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| cmoehle | Feb 18 2006, 09:19 AM Post #112 |
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"The Bush haters just keep right on coming. Where were all you people when Clinton was disgracing the office of the President? You were all saying that whatever he does in his private time is hisbusiness." Same place the Clinton-haters are now, noisily defending your man. |
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| Fr. Mike | Feb 18 2006, 01:43 PM Post #113 |
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Same place the Clinton-haters are now, noisily defending your man. Well said. I want to make it clear that I didn't say he was drinking when he shot his friend, but that there is a strong posibility that hunters on hunting trips drink. I'm sorry that this accident happened and I'm glad the shooting victim did not get killed by the shooter's negligence. The Republican's of the crowd should not be surprised that the Democrats are piling on at every incidence where the human frailty appears in this Administration. One could have reasoned this would happen by the treatment of Bill Clinton. What goes around comes around. |
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| justme | Feb 18 2006, 02:36 PM Post #114 |
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Like Cheney or not, once critical thinking degenerates into hatred, there's no value. This incident is the best illustration I have seen in years of a media out of control. |
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| passinthru | Feb 18 2006, 02:38 PM Post #115 |
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While interesting, it's pretty much a non-story, especially when Cheney came out and said it was his fault. Done with this, on to something else. |
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| cmoehle | Feb 18 2006, 02:43 PM Post #116 |
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John, you started it!
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| passinthru | Feb 18 2006, 02:45 PM Post #117 |
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I'm telling??? 
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| cruiser | Feb 18 2006, 07:38 PM Post #118 |
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Some of you Cheney lovers please tell me why, he NEVER WENT TO THE HOSPITAL AFTER HE SHOT HIS HUNTING PARTNER? He had secret service cars all over the place to drive him to the hospital. Again I ask you, would you have stayed and had your game prepared to ship to DC, or left with the wounded man who you just shot? Can you rationalize an answer here that you would stay at the game preserve. If I had been drinking I would have stayed, and if I were sober, I would have gone to the hospital. Cheney in the past had TWO documented "DUI's. Any expert on alcoholism would tell that this FACT indicates that a person has a problem with alcohol. |
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| 5thwheeler | Feb 18 2006, 08:07 PM Post #119 |
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Unfortunately we know nothing of the facts because we weren't told them when they happened. When the American people have to wait 20 hours to hear about the VP's hunting accident, doubts about his story are bound to surface, as well they should. Cheney is a known drunk with two DUI on his record, taking 20 hours to sober up isn't out of the question, or maybe that's how long it took his spin artists to do their jobs. America deserves more from its elected officials, don't you think... or don't you? |
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History 101: When a popular myth is believed to be factual, teach the myth. Its not possible to underestimate the intelligence of the voting populous. Hummm, after seeing the results of the 06 election, I may have to modify my perception of the voting populous and refer to them as "Late Bloomers". 
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| 5thwheeler | Feb 18 2006, 08:12 PM Post #120 |
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Cheney admitted to drinking beer right before he went hunting. I guess drinking right before going hunting doesn't count under your "no real hunter rule". 
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History 101: When a popular myth is believed to be factual, teach the myth. Its not possible to underestimate the intelligence of the voting populous. Hummm, after seeing the results of the 06 election, I may have to modify my perception of the voting populous and refer to them as "Late Bloomers".
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