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| CalRed | Feb 20 2006, 04:36 PM Post #151 |
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You're taking Cheney's remarks totally out of context. It is obvious to most exactly what he said and what he meant. He said there was a report that said it had been pretty well confirmed. Cheney made it clear it needed looking at further to confirm. He was saying the report said that...Not his statement. Here is the statement. VICE PRES. CHENEY: Well, what we now have that's developed since you and I last talked, Tim, of course, was that report that--it's been pretty well confirmed that he did go to Prague and he did meet with a senior official of the Iraqi intelligence service in Czechoslovakia last April, several months before the attack. Now, what the purpose of that was, what transpired between them, we simply don't know at this point, but that's clearly an avenue that we want to pursue. Here is a later statement of Cheney's about that same report: VP CHENEY: Absolutely not. What I said was the Czech intelligence service reported after 9/11 that Atta had been in Prague on April 9 of 2001, where he allegedly met with an Iraqi intelligence official. We have never been able to confirm that nor have we been able to knock it down, we just don't know. It's so obvious he never said that. Maybe liberals just want to read what they want to into statements by Bush and Cheney... |
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| cmoehle | Feb 20 2006, 04:39 PM Post #152 |
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Not often we agree so precisely, Cal, but I think your inclusion of Cheney's later statement nails it. |
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| CalRed | Feb 20 2006, 04:58 PM Post #153 |
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Perhaps it would help to look at some other statements about Iraq made right after 9/11. 1. There has been some debate over how "imminent" a threat Iraq poses. I do believe that Iraq poses an imminent threat, but I also believe that after September 11, that question is increasingly outdated. 2. The fact that Zarqawi certainly is related to the death of the U.S. aid officer and that he is very close to bin Laden puts at rest, in fairly dramatic terms, that there is at least a substantial connection between Saddam and al Qaeda. 3. There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years. 4. In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members, though there is apparently no evidence of his involvement in the terrible events of September 11, 2001. 5. I want to be real clear about the connection with terrorists. I've seen a lot of evidence on this. There are extensive contacts between Saddam Hussein's government and al Qaeda and other terrorist groups. 6. The terrorist threat against America is all too clear. Thousands of terrorist operatives around the world would pay anything to get their hands on Saddam's arsenal, and there is every reason to believe that Saddam would turn his weapons over to these terrorists. No one can doubt that if the terrorists of September 11 had had weapons of mass destruction, they would have used them. 7. The question is not whether we will disarm Saddam Hussein of his weapons of mass destruction but how. All of these statements are those of Senate Democrats. The first three were made by Jay Rockefeller, vice chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee. The fourth, by Hillary Clinton. The fifth, by Joe Lieberman. The sixth, by John Edwards. The seventh, by Ted Kennedy. And the list could go on. The people are the very same ones who keep saying Bush lied. They all had the same intelligence Bush had and all believed the same as he did. Would it be proper to say that Rockefeller LIED, Hillary LIED, Joe Lieberman LIED, John Edwards LIED and no one doubts Ted Kennedy LIED. He is famous for lying. Of course a much longer list could also be made. EVERYONE believed the same thing Bush did and they all knew it was the truth. Iraq HAD weapons of mass destruction. We know 56 truck loads of them were taken out of Iraq by airplanes just before we invaded. There is no getting over that. It has been proven by his own people. The anti-Bush people just won't admit it. But that's what Republicans really want. Keep hitting Bush, don't talk or even think of how to help the country, ignore platforms, ideas, etc. and just keep attacking Bush...You know we aren't trying to elect him to anythning... |
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Something instead of Nothing? "I find it quite improbable that such order came out of chaos. There has to be some organizing principle. God to me is a mystery but is the explanation for the miracle of existence, why there is something instead of nothing." Alan Sandage | |
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| cmoehle | Feb 20 2006, 05:57 PM Post #154 |
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I can follow and agree with your argument, Cal, until you throw in the following: "Of course a much longer list could also be made. EVERYONE believed the same thing Bush did and they all knew it was the truth. Iraq HAD weapons of mass destruction. We know 56 truck loads of them were taken out of Iraq by airplanes just before we invaded. There is no getting over that. It has been proven by his own people. The anti-Bush people just won't admit it." No one knew, they believed. That is an extremely important distinction. As far as we know today, Iraq did not have active WMD programs when we invaded. The 56 truck load thing is mere speculation about active WMD programs. Nothing has been proven. Unless some evidence does show up, and, who knows, it could, we have to start to accept that we were wrong about active WMD programs. And the same for operative terrorist ties. They lied about WMD. There's proof there was WMD. That's the problem I have with both sides in this, how facts are stretched and spun by partisan emotions. |
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