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Topic Started: 9 Oct 2009, 06:18 AM (540 Views)
Jon Testmaker
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So Obama, who was not even in national politics until less than a decade ago, promotes reduction in nuclear weapons (which by the way, he could immediately start doing unilaterally - so far as US weapons go - and he has not) and he should get a peace prize? What about people who have been pushing for much longer than him for a reduction in nuclear arms? What about people that have been successful at peace efforts? The last time I checked, people shouldn't get awarded for things they support, they should get awarded for things they do - and, to be honest, Obama has not yet DONE much of anything. He has made no concrete successes.

Furthermore, yeah, if Obama tried to greatly reduce the US military, he probably would be run out of office - but last time I checked Alfred Noble did not say that the Noble Peace Prize should be awarded to "whomever does the most to stay in office". He said it should be awarded to the person doing the most for peace, including the reduction and/or abolition of standing armies. I mean, there are people who ACTUALLY RISKED FREEDOM AND LIFE for their causes, such as a certain Chinese dissident who was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize this year and did not get it - those are the people who deserve a Noble Peace Prize, not the people who do things just because they are politically expedient.
f you don’t [stop Medicare] and I don’t do it, one of these days you and I are going to spend our sunset years telling our children and our children’s children what it once was like in America when men were free.” [1961] - Ronald Reagan

“Having given our pensioners their medical care in kind, why not food baskets, why not public housing accommodations, why not vacation resorts, why not a ration of cigarettes for those who smoke and of beer for those who drink.” [1964] - Barry Goldwater

“I was there, fighting the fight, voting against Medicare ... because we knew it wouldn’t work in 1965.” [1992] - Bob Dole

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Michael Irick
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Ares™
Oct 10 2009, 11:07 AM
:huh: Shooting a "missile" at the moon is scientific, not militaristic...

As for your previous statement about abolishing armies, think of it this way: if Obama made some sort of decision to decrease the size or altogether abolish the standing army of the USA, do you think he would last long in office? Hell no. He would be impeached and hung out to dry. What he is trying to do is abolish nuclear weapons and cease nuclear proliferation, which is something the whole world can currently agree on (well, mostly). In this day and age this is something that Nobel would see as a worthy action in the interest of peace.

Maybe the US is a military dictatorship with a presidential face.
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michaelirick
Oct 10 2009, 04:51 PM
Ares™
Oct 10 2009, 11:07 AM
:huh: Shooting a "missile" at the moon is scientific, not militaristic...

As for your previous statement about abolishing armies, think of it this way: if Obama made some sort of decision to decrease the size or altogether abolish the standing army of the USA, do you think he would last long in office? Hell no. He would be impeached and hung out to dry. What he is trying to do is abolish nuclear weapons and cease nuclear proliferation, which is something the whole world can currently agree on (well, mostly). In this day and age this is something that Nobel would see as a worthy action in the interest of peace.

Maybe the US is a military dictatorship with a presidential face.

MILITARY-INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX

CONGRATS, YOU JUST WON THE GAME

Even Eisenhower knew it.
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Nominations for this years Nobel Peace Prize closed sometime in February. Effectivly he was in office 11 days before being nominated. I believe this award has made a mockery of the Nobel Peace Prize, however I lost my respect for it when Al Gore won in 2007 so really I don't give a damn anymore.
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KamikazeCow
Oct 10 2009, 05:00 PM
michaelirick
Oct 10 2009, 04:51 PM
Ares™
Oct 10 2009, 11:07 AM
:huh: Shooting a "missile" at the moon is scientific, not militaristic...

As for your previous statement about abolishing armies, think of it this way: if Obama made some sort of decision to decrease the size or altogether abolish the standing army of the USA, do you think he would last long in office? Hell no. He would be impeached and hung out to dry. What he is trying to do is abolish nuclear weapons and cease nuclear proliferation, which is something the whole world can currently agree on (well, mostly). In this day and age this is something that Nobel would see as a worthy action in the interest of peace.

Maybe the US is a military dictatorship with a presidential face.

MILITARY-INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX

CONGRATS, YOU JUST WON THE GAME

Even Eisenhower knew it.

Damn it, I lost the game.

@Ares: Personally, I didn't mind Bush, and I think his public stupidity was just a masquerade. Cue the laughing (from Cow mostly)
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Jon Testmaker
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Benthamus
Oct 10 2009, 10:38 PM
Nominations for this years Nobel Peace Prize closed sometime in February. Effectivly he was in office 11 days before being nominated. I believe this award has made a mockery of the Nobel Peace Prize, however I lost my respect for it when Al Gore won in 2007 so really I don't give a damn anymore.

I completely agree.
f you don’t [stop Medicare] and I don’t do it, one of these days you and I are going to spend our sunset years telling our children and our children’s children what it once was like in America when men were free.” [1961] - Ronald Reagan

“Having given our pensioners their medical care in kind, why not food baskets, why not public housing accommodations, why not vacation resorts, why not a ration of cigarettes for those who smoke and of beer for those who drink.” [1964] - Barry Goldwater

“I was there, fighting the fight, voting against Medicare ... because we knew it wouldn’t work in 1965.” [1992] - Bob Dole

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Wraith
Oct 10 2009, 11:18 PM
I think his public stupidity was just a masquerade. Cue the laughing (from Cow mostly)

I don't think Bush did it, 'cuz he isn't that smart
He's just a stupid puppet taking orders on his cell phone
From the same people that sabotaged Senator Wellstone
The military industry got it poppin' and lockin'
Looking for a way to justify the Wolfowitz Doctrine

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWh077_Ed3w

;)
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