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Carnyx and Lur
Topic Started: Jun 4 2017, 10:07 AM (173 Views)
Sean Manning
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I was just thinking ... is there continuity between the Bronze Age lur trumpets and the Iron Age and Roman era carnyx trumpets? They are both very long and bronze (or maybe brass in the Roman period). I don't know anything about either.
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Steven M. Peffley
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Hi Sean,

Probably not much if any. Construction is different; Lurs are cast and carnyxii are formed by riveting sheet metal. The Lurs *do* look more like the Iron Age Irish Trumpa Cerda, even though the construction is also different.
Soundwise, I don't know. There are wonderful recordings of modern reproductions of the Carnyx (played by John Kerry), but I have never heard of the same for Lurs.
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Sean Manning
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Interesting about the construction! Don't think I have seen either instrument with my own eyes.
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Jeroen Zuiderwijk
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Steven M. Peffley,Jun 5 2017
11:06 PM
Hi Sean,

Probably not much if any. Construction is different; Lurs are cast and carnyxii are formed by riveting sheet metal. The Lurs *do* look more like the Iron Age Irish Trumpa Cerda, even though the construction is also different.
Soundwise, I don't know. There are wonderful recordings of modern reproductions of the Carnyx (played by John Kerry), but I have never heard of the same for Lurs.

There's quite a bit of recordings of lurs being played on youtube, f.e.:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLjGH_Ml3O0

I suppose there would be some continuity. I would be surprised if these horns completely vanished and got reinvented. But the archeological record is too fragmentary (for musical instruments in general), at least from my knowledge. My guess is there was a lot more out there of which we have no surviving examples.
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