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| Aya Irini Terracottas; from about 700 BCE | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Mar 17 2014, 03:46 PM (584 Views) | |
| Todd Feinman | Mar 17 2014, 03:46 PM Post #1 |
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Ooops. Thats Ayia Irini ...aaiaee! http://tinyurl.com/mtzrzkm From Cyprus, Pretty cool. Lots of what might be basic kegelhelms (early variety). Some figures look like they could be wearing scale armour. ca. 700 BCE. |
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| Matthew Amt | Mar 18 2014, 04:44 PM Post #2 |
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Good Grief Gertrude!! Never seen anything about those!! Holy smokes... I'm strongly reminded of Sardinian bronze figurines, which are generally dated a little earlier, but zoiks. Quite a collection! What the HECK are they all wearing? We know you have just a touch of a Kegelhelm fixation, Todd, and while I'm sure you're right in a few cases, some of those look suspiciously like the "Persian" helmet shown in Connolly and Warry, among other places. Nice to know if anyone has done a catalog and analysis of these things? Thanks for posting that! Learn something new every day. Matthew |
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| Todd Feinman | Mar 18 2014, 05:10 PM Post #3 |
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Isn't that cool Matt? Actually a book I just got through ILL: Oriental Influence in the Aegean and Eastern Mediterranean Helmet Traditions in the 9th-7th Centuries BC: The Patterns of Orientalization by Tamás Dezsö discusses the Orientalization of helmet types that occurred during the Greek Geometric Period; though there aren't a lot of plates, there are drawings and timelines of helmet typologies. There was a lot of overlap in helmet design, and some that look much like kegelhelms but with subtle construction differences. Dezsö's book is essential for folks trying to reconstruct Homeric helmets, I think. |
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| Todd Feinman | Jan 7 2015, 04:39 PM Post #4 |
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It's interesting that the proto-kegelhelms from Cyprus: http://www.salimbeti.com/micenei/images/latehelmet71.jpg reflected in the Ayia Irini terracottas: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-IWav99w-2IE/T8xI...;Ayia+Irini.JPG --really do look like the much earlier horned helmet Baal is often depicted wearing: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baal Makes me suspect that some of the Ayia Irini terracottas are older than commonly dated, or the Cyprus helmets are older, http://www.salimbeti.com/micenei/images/latehelmet71.jpg especiallyin light of the new revised dating from Geometric Period material. |
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