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Duckbill axe cast & finished!
Topic Started: Jan 22 2012, 03:59 PM (1,997 Views)
Jeroen Zuiderwijk
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Cast today: a duckbill axe and a socketed dagger (british)!

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And the duckbill axe after some rigorous grinding, hammering, polishing:

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Next to do is the haft, but that will have to wait for later this week.
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Yves Goris
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looks good :D
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Gregory J. Liebau
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Oh, wow. I like that a lot! Excellent cast, Jeroen. Was it your first attempt?
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I believe the expression is "O M G". That is GORGEOUS!! I *love* duckbill axes, and that is just the sweetest thing. Congrats!

Matthew
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Gregory J. Liebau,Jan 22 2012
11:46 PM
Oh, wow. I like that a lot! Excellent cast, Jeroen. Was it your first attempt?

Yup! First cast, perfect result. It doesn't always go that way :) It was also an experiment with a new core method, which will make hollow castings like that a lot easier. So as long as the cores are fairly solid, I can make those affordable enough to sell too.
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Phil Melhop
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Wow :o
i'd be up for one of each, such nice work B) B)
Phil
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a beautifull piece of art! Congratulations!
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Luciën Olinga
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Looks very nice!
Are you putting those up for sale also? :D
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Luciën Olinga,Jan 23 2012
11:07 PM
Looks very nice!
Are you putting those up for sale also? :D

This one is made on request. If I get the chance to make more, I'll certainly put them up for sale :)
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Phil Melhop
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Want/need a decent dagger too :D
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SWorkman
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Neil sells a couple of really cool daggers. Try his Sandars dagger, the original is from grave circle b at mycenae and is a real gem.
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Jeroen Zuiderwijk
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And now it's hafted :) This thing feels wicket in the hand!

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Luciën Olinga
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Looks very nice!
What kind of wood did you use? Ashwood? Alder perhaps?
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Luciën Olinga,Jan 24 2012
11:27 PM
Looks very nice!
What kind of wood did you use? Ashwood? Alder perhaps?

It's ash. It's on the list of woods used in ancient Egypt, so I figured it would likely have been available a bit up north as well.
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Jeroen Zuiderwijk
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Second duckbill cast today. This time in the exact alloy as one of the analyzed duckbills: 8.4% tin, 6.3% lead and a tiny trace of silver. As expected, this is a fair bit softer. It's also a bit more silvery and pinkish in color, despite having a lower copper contents. Below are three compositions of these axes.
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Ash trees grow in egypt?
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SWorkman,Jan 30 2012
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Ash trees grow in egypt?

As I understan it, in Egypt there were not many types of trees, and those growing there didn't have wood that was suitable. So most wood used in Egypt was imported, Lebanon f.e. being an important source.Ash is mentioned as a wood identified in artifacts from ancient Egypt.
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There was an extremely complex economy of wood production and trade in the bronze age... Lots has been explored considering all of the various woods which were considered valuable or useful for different things throughout the eastern Mediterranean basin, and I've hardly begun to touch the study myself. In essence, Egyptians were very interested in importing fine woods, as Jeroen mentions, particularly because they had a very limited supply of timber in their own region. It was a major market. Any sort of wood that grows in Anatolia, northern Africa or even the Mediterranean seaboard in southern Europe would plausibly be imported to such a rich state.

Also, most tributary states attached to Egypt had timber as their primary form of tribute. I've seen records showing hundreds or even thousands of logs being imported annually by subject peoples.

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Jeroen Zuiderwijk
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Thanks Gregory!

B.t.w. here's the list that I use a lot as a reference:

http://www.digitalegypt.ucl.ac.uk/wood/types.html
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Gregory J. Liebau,Jan 30 2012
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There was an extremely complex economy of wood production and trade in the bronze age... Lots has been explored considering all of the various woods which were considered valuable or useful for different things throughout the eastern Mediterranean basin, and I've hardly begun to touch the study myself. In essence, Egyptians were very interested in importing fine woods, as Jeroen mentions, particularly because they had a very limited supply of timber in their own region. It was a major market. Any sort of wood that grows in Anatolia, northern Africa or even the Mediterranean seaboard in southern Europe would plausibly be imported to such a rich state.

Also, most tributary states attached to Egypt had timber as their primary form of tribute. I've seen records showing hundreds or even thousands of logs being imported annually by subject peoples.

-Gregory

There's a story about a guy from Egypt who wanted to buy ceder wood from the phoenicians. this is during the time of the sea people invasions...
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